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Post by toomanytoys on Mar 22, 2017 11:51:50 GMT -5
Thanks. I have some application for this in automotive vids.
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Post by reflector on Mar 23, 2017 15:04:14 GMT -5
Just found this thread and wanted to say 'thanks reflector' for all the good info on the Tenryu blades.
I'm finding more uses for my saw other than sheet stock (thought that's all I would use it for at first) and needed some economical blades - the 28 T sounds perfect.
fwiw - my measurements for the stock mafell 092584 blade were slightly different (calipers could be off etc.). i made a gif below to show folks the insignificant distance difference to the cut line between the two blades. blades would be same diameter but to illustrate the difference I lowered one drawing.
Interesting to see the difference, when I get a chance I'm going to check a few more random teeth on the Mafell. I might of just taken a single point reading on the Mafell instead of a few like I did on the Tenryus.
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Post by kraftt on Mar 23, 2017 16:52:25 GMT -5
Have a Tenryu blade to try arriving in a week and will also post readings to see if we can find an 'average'.
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Post by mafelluser on Apr 9, 2017 17:10:17 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, and haven't yet purchased an MT55CC, but intend to in the near future. Currently, I'm researching what 162 x20 x1.8 blades are available. Has anyone (esp. in the UK) tried their MT55CC with Trend's Craft CSB/16248 blade? www.trend-uk.com/en/CZ/product/CSB_16248/3/248/craft_saw_blade_162mm_x_48t_x_20mm_.htmlI've read bad reviews on the Saxton blades (see Amazon UK) Are there any 162mm x 1.8mm kerf blades, in the UK, that offer high cut quality on par with Mafell's supplied 48th blade, without breaking the bank? I'd prefer to avoid 160mm and 165mm blades, so as to maintain appropriate MT55CC scoring-cut functionality. I'd also prefer to avoid exceeding the 1.8mm kerf of the standard Mafell blade, so as to maintain consistency of the sacrificial rail strip. Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 1:46:09 GMT -5
Yes I think you shouldn't exceed the manufacture recommended blade size on any saw / machine. Mafell set that saw to 162mm blade for that extra 1mm full plunge capacity. the rest of the world makes 160 and 165mm blades. Thats bit shit tbh. The trend craft blades are good , I haven't used it on the Mt55cc but used them on dewalt and makita circular saws previously not bad for £30. I don't know how they hold up to recharpning . You can use a 160mm blade but you have to tune the debth gauge but I'm not sure if the scoring function will cut 3mm or 2mm once it's been adjusted. Once you sharpen your blade a few times it will become smaller so the debth screw will need adjusting eventually, unless you buy a new blade every time. guys on here have said that once that screw is fine adjusted it will all work fine. mafell also do a 160x56t blade extra fine cut. When I cut high gloss laminated worktop i got some tear on on the front bottom where it rounds off. on the kitchen plinths they were lots of chipping also the laminate on them can be very brittle specially if they haven't been left to room temp . So i had to flip the laminate side over like you do on circular saw and then it was clean cut. I prob gonna get a Mafell 56t extra fine and have it on hand. The tenryu 52t look good but I don't think you can buy them here in the U.K. The Bosch blade looks really good as mentioned above but it's 165mm.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 2:01:25 GMT -5
Mafelluser When you do buy one Try to get the Mt55cc in the new t loc case I found it to be much easier and quicker to open and close.
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Post by holmz on Apr 15, 2017 5:18:50 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, and haven't yet purchased an MT55CC, but intend to in the near future. Currently, I'm researching what 162 x20 x1.8 blades are available. ... Are there any 162mm x 1.8mm kerf blades, in the UK, that offer high cut quality on par with Mafell's supplied 48th blade, without breaking the bank? ... Well the Mafell blades last a long time, but maybe all blades do on the wood I use?? I got a stack of blades and only just changed the OEM blade to a high tooth count Tenryu for some melamine. The OEM beavers away fine, but I wanted a pretty cut and the blade was just sitting there beaconing. T-Loc versus old style... if you have other T-loc systainers then get a T-loc. they may be a bit easier... One can out a T-Loc onto a classic in a stack, but not the other way around. the classics seem more secure to me, and IMO they are better... Just not if you have mostly T-Loc systainers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 6:45:40 GMT -5
All my makita cases are that way and festool and Mafell t loc I find them so much easier . My previous Mafell was the old one so happy to see the back of that.
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Post by mafelluser on Apr 15, 2017 10:08:01 GMT -5
Thanks for your input, both of you. Regarding T-loc, thanks, yeah, I have noticed a lot of ambiguity in the descriptions of various retailers, so I'll go with a retailer that explicitly states T-loc will be supplied. Back to blades... the Bosch blade looks nice quality (I believe it may be Freud), and I do understand that the MT55CC can be adjusted with an allen key, to suit slightly different-sized blades (either due to alternative blade spec or due to sharpening losses) but... I just don't feel comfortable putting a 165 disc in a 162 hole, even if it appears to (only just!) squeeze in without fouling. Mafell must've had a reason for specifying 162mm rather than 165 - could it really be that when they decided to go for 1mm deeper max cut than a 160mm blade allows, they just didn't think to go further still, or was there a problem with using 165mm blades that, let's face it, could easily have gained an even further 1.5mm depth of cut? The whole saw is so painstakingly thought-out that they surely couldn't have been too myopic to realise that Bosch retails 165mm blades all over the world (heck, Mafell even manufacture a large chunk of the competing Bosch track saw). It's a bit of a mystery to me, so I prefer to err on the side of caution, as £600 is a lot of cash to me and I want to take excellent care of the '55. In due course, I think I'll go ahead and try one of the Trend Craft blades, and, in the meantime, seek a way to somehow import a few Tenryu blades to the UK, since they are so favourably viewed by USA plunge saw users. I notice Tenryu brag that their blades are known around the globe, but they don't seem to be doing much to make them available to UK customers! That 56t Mafell-branded blade is painfully expensive!
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Post by holmz on Apr 15, 2017 10:20:35 GMT -5
Just get the saw and track and go hard at it. By the time you need to change blades, then some time will have passed. At that point you will either put on a Festool, Bosch, or Mafell blade, or find something else.
Don't do like I did and get 1/2 dozen blades which sit in a box.
I ripped 2" thick wood with the OEM blade... I had to go a bit slow, but it was not like I needed to put in the ripping blade for it... Although I probably should have. Also cut a bunch of drywall with the blade. It was Like a white tornado, but takes an inch off the edge easily.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 10:49:42 GMT -5
The reason mafell done this is when it's on the rail you get a 51mm cut debth, so you can cut 2 inch timber , that's why you got that extra 2mm on the blade.
The sawcenter in Glasgow are selling the Mt55cc with 2 blades for £588 delivered, that should last you ages they also sharpen them for somat like £8 but I don't know which carry case that comes in , but you could call them.
If we could get them 52t tenryu blades here in uk that be good. Sounds like they give better cleaner cut
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Post by mafelluser on Apr 15, 2017 10:55:30 GMT -5
The reason mafell done this is when it's on the rail you get a 51mm cut debth, so you can cut 2 inch timber , that's why you got that extra 2mm on the blade. Funnily enough, it is that retailer that I've been planning to buy from (as well as being competitive on price, they explicitly state that the SYS container is T-Loc) Apologies, my earlier reply was a little ambiguous - yes, I understand why Mafell went above 160mm - what I don't understand is why they stopped at 162mm instead of just going to 165mm, which would've made Bosch blades viable. They can't be making a huge turnover on Mafell blade sales - 90% of people savvy enough to buy a Mafell instead of a Festool are also savvy enough to know where to obtain baldes more competitively-priced than Mafell's own blades.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 15:17:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure tbh why the Germans choose to stop somewhere in between. The Mafell blade do sell a lot i sold one for £60 on eBay it went fast.
Yes they are selling the t loc case. I think all they stock is new/fresh because they were selling the older versions before.
Really good machine. The carry rail case /bag I think is a little bendy flimsy , it could do with some tougher material to protect the rails better in transit. I was thinking of sticking a length of floorboard in the bag so they can't flap/bend
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Post by reflector on Apr 15, 2017 16:06:58 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, and haven't yet purchased an MT55CC, but intend to in the near future. Currently, I'm researching what 162 x20 x1.8 blades are available. Has anyone (esp. in the UK) tried their MT55CC with Trend's Craft CSB/16248 blade? www.trend-uk.com/en/CZ/product/CSB_16248/3/248/craft_saw_blade_162mm_x_48t_x_20mm_.htmlI've read bad reviews on the Saxton blades (see Amazon UK) Are there any 162mm x 1.8mm kerf blades, in the UK, that offer high cut quality on par with Mafell's supplied 48th blade, without breaking the bank? I'd prefer to avoid 160mm and 165mm blades, so as to maintain appropriate MT55CC scoring-cut functionality. I'd also prefer to avoid exceeding the 1.8mm kerf of the standard Mafell blade, so as to maintain consistency of the sacrificial rail strip. Cheers I don't have problems scoring with my MT55cc in regards to using my 52T Tenryu blade which is 160mm, but I have adjusted the scale to ensure zero is actually zero with the Tenryu. I know someone here used a 165mm Bosch blade in their MT55cc... It was henrun: mafell-users-forum.freeforums.net/thread/815/mt55-bosch-bladesAnd it worked.
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Post by kraftt on Apr 15, 2017 17:04:48 GMT -5
Just found this thread and wanted to say 'thanks reflector' for all the good info on the Tenryu blades.
I'm finding more uses for my saw other than sheet stock (thought that's all I would use it for at first) and needed some economical blades - the 28 T sounds perfect.
fwiw - my measurements for the stock mafell 092584 blade were slightly different (calipers could be off etc.). i made a gif below to show folks the insignificant distance difference to the cut line between the two blades. blades would be same diameter but to illustrate the difference I lowered one drawing.
Interesting to see the difference, when I get a chance I'm going to check a few more random teeth on the Mafell. I might of just taken a single point reading on the Mafell instead of a few like I did on the Tenryus.
Blades just arrived... Tenryu 2.286 / 1.651 - Mafell 1.98 / 1.27
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