ths61
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Post by ths61 on Feb 18, 2014 19:58:13 GMT -5
Also not a bad idea to wait a little while to see if Toolstop gets another shipment of the bosch rail package deals to sell since you already have festool rails to use in the meantime. ... I got an email from Toolstop. They indicated that they will not restock the Bosch rail package again. Too bad, it was a great price. Maybe the earlier great price was their liquidation of the stock they had.
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Post by jonathan on Feb 19, 2014 9:41:20 GMT -5
Just a thought regarding parallel guides. After watching Woodies KSS80 video again, and more specifically the part about the guide rail and it's fixed miter indents, it occurred to me how awesome parallel guides with indents every 10mmm over their entire length would be. This would allow dummy-proof repeatabilty for most cuts.
I'm not familiar with metal working & aluminium extrusions, but I guess developing our own MUG parallel guide extrusion profile would be a costly affair?
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Post by GhostFist on Feb 19, 2014 9:50:42 GMT -5
Personally I've abandoned the idea of festool style parallel guides and plan on incorporating an incra fence into my table build. the fence will provide the accuracy and repeatability of your cuts. You just butt your rail up to the fence, zeroing the tape so that it is marking from the edge of your splinter strip
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Post by jonathan on Feb 19, 2014 11:06:25 GMT -5
I'm more looking for a solution that can simply be used on the jobsites regardless of what conditions it currently finds itself in. So something like Festool has done, but hopefully improved where possible is the direction I'm heading (so far)
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Post by sgtrjp on Feb 19, 2014 11:55:56 GMT -5
I grabbed a set of rails from toolstop with the 'goog13' deal. Now regretting that I didn't pick up 2. I don't expect to see another deal like that again.
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ths61
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Post by ths61 on Feb 20, 2014 19:54:20 GMT -5
Just pulled the trigger on a MT55cc, case, 2 blades(52T and 24T), 2 rails(F 160 & F 110), 2 clamps and connector. It should be a good starter kit.
I am looking forward to my next project.
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Post by 7 on Feb 20, 2014 21:49:18 GMT -5
Just pulled the trigger on a MT55cc, case, 2 blades(52T and 24T), 2 rails(F 160 & F 110), 2 clamps and connector. It should be a good starter kit. I am looking forward to my next project. Cool you ordered it. I know you were questioning getting the rails for the past while, I don't think you will regret it. Is this your first Mafell purchase? Im always especially interested in what people have to say that have used other brands in the past.
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Post by ths61 on Feb 20, 2014 22:20:53 GMT -5
Just pulled the trigger on a MT55cc, case, 2 blades(52T and 24T), 2 rails(F 160 & F 110), 2 clamps and connector. It should be a good starter kit. I am looking forward to my next project. Cool you ordered it. I know you were questioning getting the rails for the past while, I don't think you will regret it. Is this your first Mafell purchase? Im always especially interested in what people have to say that have used other brands in the past. It will be replacing the slide table on my cabinet saw. This is my first Mafell purchase and my first plunge-cut/track saw purchase. I am sure it will beat the old straight-edge/circular saw combo. Sorry I don't have anything better to compare it to (e.g. TS-55 or TS-75). Most of my tools have been Delta, Dewalt, Bosch, Milwaukee (before it was sold to China), Oneida, Skil(worm drive), Hilti, Porter-Cable, Hitachi(air-nailers), Stihl, and Makita.
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Post by GhostFist on Feb 20, 2014 22:23:40 GMT -5
Slide table could still come in handy, don't lose it just yet. I think you're gonna be pleased as punch though with the mt55
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Post by 7 on Feb 20, 2014 22:36:06 GMT -5
It will be replacing the slide table on my cabinet saw. This is my first Mafell purchase and my first plunge-cut/track saw purchase. I am sure it will beat the old straight-edge/circular saw combo. Sorry I don't have anything better to compare it to (e.g. TS-55 or TS-75). My mistake- Somehow I got it in my head that you were currently using a TS55. Wonder where I got that in my head. Well I am still curious to know what you think of the saw once you use it
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Post by ths61 on Feb 27, 2014 15:00:55 GMT -5
MT55cc arrived today. All parts appear to be unscathed from shipping.
Have a quick question. One of the instruction sheets shows 2 "narrow" slots on the bottom of the MT55cc. One is designated for 90 degree cuts and the another one is designated for beveled cuts.
It warns that using the 90 degree slot for bevel cuts will ruin the rails. My MT55cc only has 1 narrow and 1 wide slot, not 2 narrow ones. The wide/Festool slot doesn't match the "narrow" slot pictured in the warning diagram and I do not see a way of making it a "narrow" slot. Is this old documentation or am I missing something?
Also, does anyone wax their rails?
TIA
P.S. The guide rail bag appears to be pretty sturdy. The blade storage compartment in the saw case is also nice. The case and bag should be a good transportation/organization system.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Feb 27, 2014 16:06:30 GMT -5
There is only one narrow slot on the base on my kss400 there is only one narrow slot at this slot there is an indication saying 0degres also a little bit across there is another mark saying 45 at this mark there is no narrow slot. On my ksp85 has 2 narrow slots. I think it is a case of the instructions booklet nor updating to the saws
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Post by GhostFist on Feb 27, 2014 16:19:00 GMT -5
you're mt55 is designed to work off of the one slot. No need to be concerned
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Post by jonathan on Feb 27, 2014 16:34:56 GMT -5
MT55cc arrived today. All parts appear to be unscathed from shipping. Have a quick question. One of the instruction sheets shows 2 "narrow" slots on the bottom of the MT55cc. One is designated for 90 degree cuts and the another one is designated for beveled cuts. It warns that using the 90 degree slot for bevel cuts will ruin the rails. My MT55cc only has 1 narrow and 1 wide slot, not 2 narrow ones. The wide/Festool slot doesn't match the "narrow" slot pictured in the warning diagram and I do not see a way of making it a "narrow" slot. Is this old documentation or am I missing something? Also, does anyone wax their rails? TIA P.S. The guide rail bag appears to be pretty sturdy. The blade storage compartment in the saw case is also nice. The case and bag should be a good transportation/organization system. This sounds weird to me. Is it possible for you to post a picture of what exactly it is you mean? I think wrightwoodwork has got it right, maybe a wrong or outdated documentation. But to be sure, here's how it's supposed to be: (click image to enlarge)You only use either one of the grooves, depending on which brand your guide rail is. Either the large one for Festool/Makita rails or the thin one on Mafell/Bosch/Flex rails. - On the Mafell/Bosch/Flex rails, the cut is exactly on the rubber edge, regardless of the degree the saw is tilted to. - On Festool/Makita rails, your 90° cuts are exactly on the rubber edge, but bevel cuts are not. The more you tilt the saw, the further away your cutline is from your rubber edge. (This is because the Festool rail extrusion is thinner than Mafell's.) When you receive your rails, the rubber edge will be oversized. It needs to be trimmed to "zero-clearance" on your first cut to create an accurate reference point calibrated to your specific saw. Maybe this is what you saw on the documentation?
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ths61
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Post by ths61 on Feb 27, 2014 20:04:19 GMT -5
This sounds weird to me. Is it possible for you to post a picture of what exactly it is you mean? I think wrightwoodwork has got it right, maybe a wrong or outdated documentation. But to be sure, here's how it's supposed to be: (click image to enlarge)You only use either one of the grooves, depending on which brand your guide rail is. Either the large one for Festool/Makita rails or the thin one on Mafell/Bosch/Flex rails. - On the Mafell/Bosch/Flex rails, the cut is exactly on the rubber edge, regardless of the degree the saw is tilted to. - On Festool/Makita rails, your 90° cuts are exactly on the rubber edge, but bevel cuts are not. The more you tilt the saw, the further away your cutline is from your rubber edge. (This is because the Festool rail extrusion is thinner than Mafell's.) When you receive your rails, the rubber edge will be oversized. It needs to be trimmed to "zero-clearance" on your first cut to create an accurate reference point calibrated to your specific saw. Maybe this is what you saw on the documentation? The documentation came with the rails so it may be meant for another saw (or an older version). It wasn't the "zero-clearance" documentation. Now that I have the Mafell rails, I am working on an adapter for the Seneca parallel guides. I see the Mafell rails are narrower than the MT55cc saw base which makes it a little more difficult. Can't butt the Incra tracks directly against the non-cut side of the Mafell rails.
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