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Post by mick on May 26, 2015 13:42:31 GMT -5
Looking at picking up a new sander I am looking at festool rotex 125 the 150 seems more popular but I am thinking it is bigger than I need any one got the 125 if so what do you think of it Looking at the rotex become I don't do that much sanding so was thinking this would be a good all rounder solid slips on veneer sheets and kitchen doors
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Post by jm on May 26, 2015 14:28:49 GMT -5
The Rotex is nice for hogging through a ton of stock, it's a heavy sander though, and the price is outrageous in my opinion (I own it, but bought it in a 30% reconditioned sale).
The Bosch 1250DEVS/GEX 150 Turbo does largely the same work, at 1/3rd the price. The only thing the Bosch doesn't have that the Festool does is the edge guard, if you find yourself sanding against walls often. It does allow you to swap between 125 and 150 pad sizes iirc (the Festool does not).
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Post by Knight Woodworks on May 26, 2015 19:45:29 GMT -5
I've owned the RO125 for a few years. If you don't do much sanding and need the ability to do both coarse and fine work in one machine it's a good choice. I find it a bit of a handful, unlike most handheld sanders it has a learning curve, definitely demo it or give it a workout within the return period.
John
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Post by holmz on May 26, 2015 21:15:24 GMT -5
Looking at picking up a new sander I am looking at festool rotex 125 the 150 seems more popular but I am thinking it is bigger than I need any one got the 125 if so what do you think of it Looking at the rotex become I don't do that much sanding so was thinking this would be a good all rounder solid slips on veneer sheets and kitchen doors if you are looking at both a 125 and a 126, then the Mirka DEROS makes a great deal of sense, as the one model has both 5" and 6". However after using the EVA 115 e and having no vibration, I have a hard time not recommending that... And therefore I recommend it. It is totally awesome, I do not know how a RO can be better... The thing takes the screens, and goes to 12 ocs/sec and makes hardly a sound. A Mirka owner told me that if one is doing wood, then he would suggest the Mafell 'hands down' as the Mirka vibrates. If they are doing drywall, vertical or ceilings, (i.e. 'hands up')... then the Mirka is better because it is lighter. With the speed turned down 3 notches it doesn't vibrate too bad. There is a Finnish place that sells them for 500 'e' ex VAT, and they are supposedly easy to operate, rather than 'nervous'. I have no first hand experience on either the Mirka nor on the Festool ROs - I went straight to the EVA 115 e.
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Post by erik on May 26, 2015 21:45:28 GMT -5
The RO125 was my first higher-end sander; it seemed like it could tackle most jobs and it did but I out grew it when I started to get more serious work. The RO never matched the finish quality of the ETS or the hogging ability of a belt sander or RAS 115. So, it can do it all, just not as fast and as well as specialized equipment.
See if you can get your hands on a mirka, they have 125 and 150 size sanders. I have a Ceros, and mainly use it for drywall and plaster but Mirka does put out a sandpaper line under the Abarnet name that includes heavy duty (HD) paper for hogging out and regular paper for finish sanding. My only complaint about the abarent line is you have to order in advance since not too many places stock it, but its worth it for the quality/durability.
As a side note, I think the RO 90 is the best of the RO sanders.
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Post by mick on May 27, 2015 7:17:01 GMT -5
Thanks lads for the info Jim from what I can see the Bosch is only about €70 cheaper here Holmz the Eva 115e make is that or is it the mafell Eva 150 e The Mirka looks nice trying to find a dealer here Erik I was thinking the 90 would be a bit small why do you think it is the better of the ro sanders
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Post by holmz on May 27, 2015 9:13:50 GMT -5
Thanks lads for the info Jim from what I can see the Bosch is only about €70 cheaper here Holmz the Eva 115e make is that or is it the mafell Eva 150 e The Mirka looks nice trying to find a dealer here Erik I was thinking the 90 would be a bit small why do you think it is the better of the ro sanders If you are doing flat stuff it is great. For some curvy work the RO90 would be much smaller, but then so would the Mirka 77-mm.
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Post by jalvis on May 27, 2015 10:40:25 GMT -5
I have the 150. Its the previous Festool design. Love the tool. Certainly the most used sander in my shop. I have wet sanded granite up to 800 grit. Removed paint and primer with the rotary mode using 36 grit and then fine sanding to 220 grit. I even use a wool pad on rotary to buff waxes (furniture or car). Personally really like the 150 since it allows for more pad and is easier to keep flat.
If your doing general work I would get the Festool RO90.
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Post by jonathan on May 27, 2015 10:59:28 GMT -5
I have the RO-90 and wish I could get rid of it to be honest. The RO-90 offers a lot of solutions for those small and annoying sanding jobs, but I just hate the balance of the Rotex sanders. Very hard to keep the pad flat, especially the small one of the RO-90.
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Post by jm on May 27, 2015 11:59:53 GMT -5
I sold my RO90 as well for the same reasons. I kept it around for the delta pad, but then I had a $500 corner sander which was stupid.
Sold it (took a $100 loss on it) and I currently use my oscillating tool to do corners, though I might pickup that little Bosch or Metabo detail sander soon.
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Post by mick on May 27, 2015 14:04:19 GMT -5
Well I am not sure what one now to go for will have to do a bit of reading on them and try and figure it out Thanks for all the input
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Post by holmz on May 27, 2015 17:10:32 GMT -5
I sold my RO90 as well for the same reasons. I kept it around for the delta pad, but then I had a $500 corner sander which was stupid. Sold it (took a $100 loss on it) and I currently use my oscillating tool to do corners, though I might pickup that little Bosch or Metabo detail sander soon. I bought a used DX90 triangular sander. It does well on corners, and was 1/2 the price of a RO90 and it has three corners Well I am not sure what one now to go for will have to do a bit of reading on them and try and figure it out Thanks for all the input Is it is flats you are doing or curves? I have not tried any of the Festool ROs, nor the Mirka. But I would be considering looking at one that starts with M and/or one that has less than 7 letters.
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Post by erik on May 27, 2015 21:27:13 GMT -5
Hey Mick,
I guess I need to place that comment, about the ro 90, with a bit of context, but it seems the more you talk about sanders..the more you to talk about sanders, until the hold thread devolves into sanding stroke mm, acceptable finish quality and suggestions that you're better off with five sanders.
The way I think about it, every sander has an efficiency curve for a said task. Were one curve flattens out, another sander ramps up and makes the job go quicker, more accurate, etc. So, I wouldn't endeavor to flatten table tops with the RO 90, I wouldn't even use it to flatten intersecting stiles and rails, but I would use it for removing some stock from swollen doors, rounding shelf edges, cleaning a cope, getting into small spaces and bringing it on site for "just in case" situations, were I don't for-see a definite use for sanding that day, but don't want to be short handed. I just find that I can get the most creative with the ro 90 and manipulate what I want from it in odd situations.
With that, I lent my brother the ro 125 about two years ago for various diy renovations, some extremely high level stuff, others, fairly mild, and he has gotten along quite well with it. He hasn't asked to borrow any other sanders, and I haven't offered any more, so I take it that its a good all-around sander for someone not competing in the market place, albeit maintaining high diy standards.
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Post by 7 on May 27, 2015 23:33:54 GMT -5
Late to the conversation as usual lately. I own several sanders: Festool RO90, Festool ETS125, Mirka Ceros, Mirka Deros (Just added the Deros recently)
If I could only own one it would no doubt be one of the Mirka's. Both of mine are 5". I might be a bit oblivious but I don't experience any vibration at higher speeds. They are perfect sanders in my opinion. I tested the Ceros and the RO 125 side by side when considering both ( went there to buy the RO125) and just liked the Ceros a lot better. I'd definitely at least check them out if you can find a dealer. I also like the Abranet paper and can find it locally at several dealers.
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Post by mick on May 28, 2015 7:06:30 GMT -5
7 is your deros 110v had decided to get it but have read it is only in 220v ?
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