Tim
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Post by Tim on Sept 14, 2014 8:50:16 GMT -5
Very impressive Tom. Thanks for posting your video. I will admit that Festool's videos' always inspire me to do better. I have been working in the stone ages for many years. I'm starting to see the light.
On a side note I recently acquired a sprinter what is the brand of your ladder rack? I like the side mount.
I'm struggling as to which Mafell track saw to purchase also. I think I will require two. An MT and a KSS, but which KSS to buy? Maybe three?(no money for three).
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Sept 14, 2014 9:13:57 GMT -5
Tim - you are not alone on the saw decision...a few other members and me are having that same debate as well, LOL. I think that Tom will recommend the KSS400 as the saw to do 90% - 95% of what he does and if you do similar work, this might be a good starting point. I have decided I am going to get into the KSS system and really debating between all three models. My current thinking is the KSS300 and KSS80, but I might just go with the 400 first and see if that saw gets me through most everything. The 80 looks like an almost perfect blend of function and beauty, but it costs a pretty penny and might be a little on the heavier side to use all day long. The 300 seems like the perfect saw for so many applications, but not everything (hence why I am thinking both 80/300). If you work mostly with sheet goods then a track saw is a no brainer and the MT55 would be at the top of my list. IN fact, I started down that path originally before getting turned onto the KSS system.
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Sept 18, 2014 22:01:46 GMT -5
Very impressive Tom. Thanks for posting your video. I will admit that Festool's videos' always inspire me to do better. I have been working in the stone ages for many years. I'm starting to see the light. On a side note I recently acquired a sprinter what is the brand of your ladder rack? I like the side mount. I'm struggling as to which Mafell track saw to purchase also. I think I will require two. An MT and a KSS, but which KSS to buy? Maybe three?(no money for three). Hi Tim! I apologize in the delay responding to this question. My ladder racking is produced by VertiRack (www.vertirack.com). It's plenty strong for what I use it for, it's very handy for daily use, and roughly 1/4 the price of the articulating overhead racks. I happily recommend the product! :-)
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Tim
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Post by Tim on Sept 19, 2014 19:09:53 GMT -5
Thanks Tom. I'm going to check it out.
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Post by skinee on Sept 23, 2014 16:16:54 GMT -5
I sent for this magazine as I could not believe a serious review could place the festool ts55 ahead of the mt55 and I just had to read it for myself,in my opinion the review was poor,it was very compressed,the reviewer tested by cutting melamine and "splintery birch veneer plywood",he cut on a sheet of rigid foam insulation board,the reviewer states that he is a long term user of the festool saw,that it's cuts on the birch ply were the best of any saw tested,that blade change was easy and dust collection "exceptionally effective", of the mafell mt55 he gives it a good review saying that "all in all, an exceptional cutting performance" but he describes dust collection as "tidy" in contrast to his "exceptionally effective" comment on the festools dust collection,with regard to rails he states wrongly that all the tested saws rails joined with connector rods,there is no mention of mafells superior rail connection system or the fact that festools connection system is a pain in the neck(to put it politely!)i doubt that he has even seen the mafell rail connection system,he is entitled to his opinion but like many here who have owned and used both saws i know differently,unfortunately an incomprehensive review such as this will sway new buyers of a track saw to choose the second best instead of THE best.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Sept 23, 2014 17:37:06 GMT -5
Sounds like a bit of bias to me. The only real advantage the festool has is a bigger dealer network
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Post by 7 on Sept 23, 2014 22:55:26 GMT -5
Interesting that they didn't mention any of the areas where the Festool actually is better such as the rail clamps. Then again though the two slots on the bottom of the Mafell rails are much better than one. Doesn't sound like a very imperical review for sure with no mention about items like rail connector, more power, better blade change, a real count for dust collection etc.
On a different note, I am a little bit surprised that the Mafell was even in the review. Seems there is still very little knowledge that it even exists.
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Post by toomanytoys on Sept 24, 2014 7:39:53 GMT -5
I have not read that mag, so I can't give an opinion about how well they test out products. But over the years I have learned there is too much advertisement bias in most main stream magazines to bet my choices on them. I remember a long time ago my favorite reviewer was released as a contributor to a motorcycle mag because he was too honest. At least this magazine used the Mafell as the cover of the issue. That at least will give it some exposure! If they rated the Festool to have better dust collection then the Mafell, then I have to ague with that, but maybe I'm biased since I now have the Mafell .
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Sept 24, 2014 23:36:37 GMT -5
Most reviews are biased and so I take them with a grain of salt. I cannot even find this magazine anywhere locally so have not been able to read it. Most things in magazines are anti climatic so I do not read them much any more. Would rather have the biased/unbiased reviews from the members on good forums such as this one.
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Post by myupholsterer on Sept 25, 2014 20:12:10 GMT -5
I could care less about what that Mag has to say. When I started my venture in how to cut sheet goods safely and precise, I started looking at some expensive tablesaws, then one thing lead to another and I had fallen to the festool web products but then I saw a german or dutch video where they compared festool, bosch, dewalt, mafells track systems and with that video alone without English translation I made my mind up to the best machine in my shop. Let them review and say what they want but WE ALL HERE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AND IT'S THE BEST!.
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Post by nucone on Sept 28, 2014 7:55:07 GMT -5
Over 3 decades ago when I was a newb, I relished the content of woodworking magazines including their tool reviews. About 7 years ago, I let all the subscriptions expire primarily for 2 reasons; 1) their tool reviews were biased based on the preferences of the reviewer and, 2) their content became too focused on beginners essentially abandoning those of us who kept them growing over the years. My comments to the editors regarding these subjects fell on deaf ears so I let my money do the talking and walking.
If the magazine tool reviews just focused on the various critical aspects of tool performance and then stated the facts of how each tool performed against those performance criteria and left it at that, their tool reviews would be fine. The problem is they mag editors always gravitate toward the titles "Editors Choice", "Best Value", winner or whatever when that decision is really the readers.
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