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Post by mick on May 3, 2014 16:10:25 GMT -5
Hi guys I have never Owned a dust extractor And reckon it is time after almost 30 years eating dust So I am looking for advice on what one to get I work out of a van not a lot of room and do all sorts of work but I reckon I would really only use it when cutting sheet can't see me using it for stud or joist work I was thinking the festool mini or the 26 I really like the idea of a reusable bag any taught's would be good Thanks
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 3, 2014 18:19:18 GMT -5
You are properly wanting a vac with a small footprint yet not too small. Out of the two you suggest I would lean towards the 26 as it doesn't take up to much room yet it's not to small you will be constantly changing or emptying bags. When I got my vac I went for the mafell s25 simply for the reason I got a better deal on it than I was going to get on the festool equivalent. A little bit later I thought I maybe should have got the festool because of the ongoing life bags cause they can be emptied and reused. Some people cut there paper bags then stable them back up and reuse. I have done it once. Then decided against it for the simple reason being, the reason to use a vac is to reduce the dust that you breath and by emptying bags I think you are putting dust bag into the air to breathe which is what you have tried to avoid breathing in. I personally think you can't put a price on your health the cost of the bags is a small price to pay. The only downside I find with the mafell is when using the 35mm hose it does twist off as the hose is quiet stiff. A better design of attachment would be better where it could rotate 360 that would be my only change to it. If you are going to be just using when cutting sheet goods the standard 27 hose works fine. Then if you are using with a planer the 35mm hose is worth using as it gives more airflow. There is the health benefits but there is also the benefits of working in a clean work place. It's a bit like have somebody tidy up after you as you work all it costs is the bags when needed never moans or has off days
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Post by GhostFist on May 3, 2014 20:39:26 GMT -5
Honestly I couldn't have said it better.
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Post by 7 on May 4, 2014 0:19:39 GMT -5
I would also get the 26 over the Midi if you are leaning festool. I have the Midi, CT 26 and 36 and like them a lot but I do like the 26 and 36 better than the midi (cord wrap, hose location & connection, switching hose sizes, and dock on top is better to name a few. 26 & 36 have the same footprint 36 is just taller. Another option to the reusable bag is the dust deputy or other cyclonehttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD0QtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DC6SheO6zwBI&ei=cMxlU_v-G4OVyATl6YLgAw&usg=AFQjCNH_NkXJTd7Zj2iPPuE3OCfWFXdkKw&bvm=bv.65788261,d.aWw
I understand the complaints people have with them, mainly that it is another item to haul around and what wright already mentioned about needing to dump the dust and get it in the air again. I like them but use the cyclone only when cutting a lot especially in certain materials that create dust fast. Good for the shop but I use it a lot on site too. My vote is for the CT 26 or 36. Have a fein, prefer the festools. Have never used starmix, metabo, mafell etc etc that also get good reviews. Good luck.
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Post by mick on May 4, 2014 1:42:36 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the replays Wright as you say you can't put a price on health hopefully better late then never on this one In the real world is there much between the L and the E, I read the specks but it doesn't really mean much to me
7 the only reason I am leaning towards the festool is it would be the easiest one for me to get and I haven't really heard anything bad about them I don't really have the space in the van for more gear like the deupty thanks for the link on it maybe down the road a bit for in my shed
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 4, 2014 4:25:36 GMT -5
On the starmix website there is a download explaining the classes. L,M,H,H asbestos class H is the highest but you won't need that high as its more for hazardous dust like asbestos. If you are in a workshop where you are sanding lots of tropical hardwoods which have proved to be cancerous if you breathe in enough of the dust there will be a threshold tolerance. It will be different on each individual. Class M would be a better choice. Then if you are going to be using more on site where you would be using with the saws and a hand planers then class L is good enough. I just have class L which for me is good enough I do use for sanding. The one thing I did notice when I first started using a vacuum is a better finish as you are not sanding the dust back into the wood. If I was going to be working with more tropical hardwoods then I would consider class m. Also some companies in there health and safety policies will state you have to use class M
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Post by mick on May 4, 2014 6:50:12 GMT -5
Ok thanks for that I will download that and have a look but from what you are saying I think L would be fine nowhere I work requires you to use a vac never mind what class and I don't really use any tropical hardwoods any more mores the pity Mdf is my worst dust offender so if L is good for that I reckon I will go with that
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 4, 2014 9:17:24 GMT -5
Another good thing about a vacuum is it makes you appear to be more professional and that you care about the job and other people's health around you
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