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Post by christoph on Jun 1, 2014 16:42:21 GMT -5
Must be a bit unlucky. I don't have the mt myself but it should cut on the line. Just curious I there is pointer that moves for cutting off the rail does the cut correspond to the marker. Be it at 90 or 45 Some say, the use of "." and "," improve the readability of some text ;-) |
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Jun 1, 2014 16:45:40 GMT -5
Yeah that's it was just wondering if that would show up a misalignment issue. I would ever contact your dealer or nma
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Post by christoph on Jun 1, 2014 16:46:51 GMT -5
Not sure what you mean, but all the videos I have seen for the mt show a pointer at the front sole of the saw, as you go through the degrees, the pointer moves outwards, some sort of pivot system. My guess is that it moves out to much. I think I'll return it, as I'm not sure what else will pop up. I have used the saw and one track, should still be able to return it ? right? Hi! I read about the same Problem from a german MT55 user in a german tool-forum some time ago. Don't know where you live!? NA? Canada? Just contact your local dealer (or Mafell Support if your in europe) before you send the saw back. You can easily adjust most things in your own workshop if you want. But just talk to your dealer or Mafell, they will help you with this! |
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Post by differentshades on Jun 1, 2014 17:01:44 GMT -5
I'm in the UK.
I bought the saw from miles tool and machinery. When I first contacted them about the Bevel angle, they passed my details onto NMA. Nice chap called Allan, talked the procedure with me over the phone and sent some pics.
Have just sent him an email regarding the latest issue.
I just don't want to have to adjust and set things, should have left the factory set properly. I don't mind regular maintenance but shouldn't have to do it straight out of the box! especially considering what the saw cost.
I'm hoping, in some weird way, that I have got a lemon and replace it with another one, because I really do like the saw.
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Post by 7 on Jun 1, 2014 23:17:32 GMT -5
I agree with you that it should come ready to go. It's nice that the adjustments are there for future fine tuning but you annoying as you say right out of the box.
I'll have to check mine next time I am using it. I am not positive that the 45 deg. cut isn't shifted slightly but it does make extremely crisp 45s. I can get a box or post wrap so perfect that you can barely find the line when looking for it. Good luck hope you get one that satisfies you.
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Post by christoph on Jun 2, 2014 0:42:30 GMT -5
I'm in the UK. I bought the saw from miles tool and machinery. When I first contacted them about the Bevel angle, they passed my details onto NMA. Nice chap called Allan, talked the procedure with me over the phone and sent some pics. Have just sent him an email regarding the latest issue. I just don't want to have to adjust and set things, should have left the factory set properly. I don't mind regular maintenance but shouldn't have to do it straight out of the box! especially considering what the saw cost. I'm hoping, in some weird way, that I have got a lemon and replace it with another one, because I really do like the saw. You are right, so just send it back soon and get a good one as replacement. As i said before, just read about this one time in the past, and there are many professional Mafell Users here in german tool-forums. Good luck! |
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Post by differentshades on Jun 2, 2014 17:44:36 GMT -5
Spoke to NMA today, they are sending out a replacement on Wednesday. Mafell originally wanted to loan me one while they took a look at my one, but NMA managed to get me a replacement.
Got to send the saw back with the guide rail, could possibly be an issue with track alignment, but I think it's an issue with the pivot system.
Quick question for anyone with an MT55, or kss saws, am I right in thinking that the blade is in contact with the edge guide, no matter what angle? If this is not the case, then surely you would need separate splinter guards for different angles!
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Post by GhostFist on Jun 2, 2014 19:43:29 GMT -5
When you first use the rail, you cut the splinter strip with the saw at a depth of about 3 to 5 mm. so what remains is what is untouched by the saw. The pivot system on the MT55 is designed to move out slightly to keep the same distance from the strip when cutting bevels. You mark your stock the same way you would doing a regular 90 degree cut and place the splinter strip on the mark the same way. When cutting at any angle your cut should be on the line. Take a bit of care before making that first cut to ensure there is no left to right rocking of the saw on the rail by tightening the slop adjustment knobs. There should be no left/right play but it shouldn't be so tight as to make it difficult to push the saw on the rail. Then do your 5mm cut using a piece of scrap as a backing for the splinter guard. Do the cut in one fluid pass along the entire distance of the rail. Boom you're set!
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Post by differentshades on Jun 2, 2014 20:15:48 GMT -5
cheers for that, this is exactly what I did.
Speaking to NMA, they were told by mafell that no plunge saw will pivot exactly to the 90 degree line! I think something got lost in communication, because this exactly what it is supposed to do? I mean the videos and adverts that I have seen stress this point, that no matter the bevel it will cut to the line rather than having to compensate by moving the track a couple of mm from the line.
Got a replacement coming on Wednesday, so will check that, if it's the same, will have to return it.
My ksp40 cut exactly on the line no matter the bevel.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jun 2, 2014 21:39:54 GMT -5
That is what I read too and I hope that it is true as that is a big selling point for me with this saw.
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Post by 7 on Jun 2, 2014 23:35:21 GMT -5
Here are a couple pics of a test run I just did with the MT55 set at 0 then 45 deg. As you can see it is shifted ever so slightly. You might have different needs than I do but I have no issue with this slight tolerance. I get perfect clean cuts which is the important aspect in my work. Any time I am mitering- say to wrap a post for example- I build the wrap slightly larger than the rough post that is being wrapped to allow for knots, crowns, etc etc and to avoid fighting to get the miters to close perfectly. On the cuts shown I made no effort to get clean cuts in the melamine, just plunged quickly and pushed the saw forward with whatever blade was already on the saw (32t mafell blade) I have wrapped beams in maple veneered MDF and the end product looked like a solid beam. Anyway these cuts are as accurate as mine is & I highly doubt that you would get dead on from any of the other brands. It is still so close to the splinter strip that it avoids tear out.   |
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Post by differentshades on Jun 3, 2014 2:47:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the uploads.
I am starting to understand and maybe temper my expectations a little bit. It's just that the videos actually show you that, when yours don't, you suspect it's a dud.
I might still return the saw though, as there is another brand, even though a little cut down, is about £130 odd cheaper and I can maybe put that extra towards a kss300.
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Post by christoph on Jun 3, 2014 6:43:07 GMT -5
I might still return the saw though, as there is another brand, even though a little cut down, is about £130 odd cheaper and I can maybe put that extra towards a kss300. :-) Cause this is an independent Forum feel free to say which brand you are thinking about ;-) |
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Post by differentshades on Jun 3, 2014 8:01:48 GMT -5
bosch, mafell make it for them. it doesn't have the scribe function and maybe couple of other bits. the equivalent kit is about £440 2 tracks clamps and bag
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Post by christoph on Jun 3, 2014 8:15:56 GMT -5
bosch, mafell make it for them. it doesn't have the scribe function and maybe couple of other bits. the equivalent kit is about £440 2 tracks clamps and bag Your right, and its a good deal. But dont forget: the Bosch Dont have the simple Pivot-clamping System of the mafell only on the front knob... May be relevant if you use it a Lot as you mentioned... |
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