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Post by aas on Aug 2, 2022 1:18:09 GMT -5
I've already spoken about this here, it's disappointing that Mafell only offer 2 blades for the K65/KSS60 18M saw whereas for the corded saw there are 4 options.
Been seriously thinking about getting rid of it and getting the KSS50 18M. I decided to compare parts lists to convert to the smaller model - turns out there are around 17 different parts - too many to make it worthwhile.
I took the blade cover off to see if the riving knife could be modified and there are a couple of oblique slots in the mounting - it turns out that without removing the cover the riving knife can be adjusted - due to the oblique slots, as it goes up, it also goes in - it's perfectly set on the highest / closest position for a 165mm blade - and it uses the onboard allen key to adjust.
So there - two saws for the price of one!
As an asides, the K65/KSS60 18m's use the same riving knife as the mains powered equivalents, so no problem for using thicker 2,4mm blades on the cordless models.
I also compared base plates across the models - they are all using the same base plates - so technically the K series circular saws should work on the KSS rails... I know my K65 couldn't ride on the KSS rail, Mafell switched out the base for me - maybe this is a new development to cut down on parts needing to be stocked.
I've also noticed one supplier is selling the K85 with an L KSS rail as an option and the rail is stated as being an accessory for K85/KSS80/NFU50.
If anyone has recently purchased K series with the correct groove for a KSS rail, please post.
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Post by ghostsauce on Aug 10, 2022 14:23:03 GMT -5
You can use the blades for the KSS 60cc it the KSS 60mbl without any issue, other than that the higher tooth count drains the battery slightly faster.
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Post by emilhedevang on Aug 10, 2022 15:37:17 GMT -5
Indeed, the brochures now list the same blades for the cordless and corded of both K55/KSS50 and K65/KSS60. For the latter, the blades are thicker but two of them are offered in a thinner variant that is easier on the battery. As for the rails, the saws now have a common base, so the K can become a KSS.
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Post by lincoln on Aug 10, 2022 16:31:54 GMT -5
aas - I have a K55 and the base definitely can't take a crosscut rail, just the F Track. If that's now the case, I'll be ordering a new base asap!
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Post by aas on Aug 10, 2022 23:10:21 GMT -5
You can use the blades for the KSS 60cc it the KSS 60mbl without any issue, other than that the higher tooth count drains the battery slightly faster. It's probably the thicker blade that will drain the battery more than the tooth count... I've been trying to keep the same thickness / plate to kerf offset as the original 'battery ideal' Mafell blades.
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Post by aas on Aug 10, 2022 23:16:53 GMT -5
Indeed, the brochures now list the same blades for the cordless and corded of both K55/KSS50 and K65/KSS60. For the latter, the blades are thicker but two of them are offered in a thinner variant that is easier on the battery. As for the rails, the saws now have a common base, so the K can become a KSS. The blades are thicker for the mains powered saws - the K65/KSS60 are basically the same saw - the 18v saw uses the thinner blades.
My issue is the lack of blades for the 18v version - just two blades - and they're pretty flexible too.
It does seem that the K saws now have a KSS base which is good news.
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Post by aas on Aug 10, 2022 23:20:41 GMT -5
aas - I have a K55 and the base definitely can't take a crosscut rail, just the F Track. If that's now the case, I'll be ordering a new base asap! But you could always have added a base from a KSS50. It's worth doing.
When I got the K65 18M pure, I complained that the KSS rail was listed as an accessory of this saw on the website and it didn't have the groove for it - they picked up the saw, switched out the base and shipped it back to me free of charge.
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Post by lincoln on Aug 11, 2022 0:45:09 GMT -5
aas - I have a K55 and the base definitely can't take a crosscut rail, just the F Track. If that's now the case, I'll be ordering a new base asap! But you could always have added a base from a KSS50. It's worth doing.
When I got the K65 18M pure, I complained that the KSS rail was listed as an accessory of this saw on the website and it didn't have the groove for it - they picked up the saw, switched out the base and shipped it back to me free of charge.
Same happened to me! Bit hard to swap it, seeing as I'm in Australia. Have asked for a quote for a base and cross cut rail.
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Post by lincoln on Aug 11, 2022 18:44:43 GMT -5
emilhedevang aas - the saws are identical, apart from the base? Don't need any other parts, to turn a K55 into a KSS50?
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Post by aas on Aug 12, 2022 1:02:42 GMT -5
emilhedevang aas - the saws are identical, apart from the base? Don't need any other parts, to turn a K55 into a KSS50? If you check the part numbers on the Mafell service website :
- the K55/KSS50/K65/KSS60 all use the same base : 205866
If you reverse search this part number it says this part is an accessory of :
K55 KSS50 K65 KSS60
Seems to be enough proof for me.
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Post by lincoln on Aug 12, 2022 9:10:46 GMT -5
I agree, but I was wondering if there are any other parts needed to make it a KSS50. Have ordered the base and a crosscut rail.
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Post by aas on Aug 12, 2022 12:42:35 GMT -5
I agree, but I was wondering if there are any other parts needed to make it a KSS50. Have ordered the base and a crosscut rail. No other parts - K55 to KSS50 is base and rail.
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Post by lincoln on Aug 22, 2022 4:00:42 GMT -5
Parts arrived and a very easy job. I now have a cordless KSS50. Only difference on the base is a groove milled along the left hand edge.
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Post by aas on Aug 23, 2022 0:34:28 GMT -5
Cool!..pProbably could be done with a router table and the right bit if you had a base to compare it to!
I recently got a nice CMT 165mm blade for the K65, 40T I think - so with the riving knife adjusted up I have the best of both worlds now - KSS 50 or 60 depending on the blade. This blade is thicker than the standard K65 blade, but with the smaller diameter it has more torque, also less flex on 45 degree cuts.
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Post by lincoln on Aug 23, 2022 5:14:49 GMT -5
I've gone to 2.2mm blades on my MT55 and KSS50, not a fan of the thinner blades.
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