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Post by aas on Sept 20, 2021 3:05:34 GMT -5
I picked up a 12v brushless 'A10M' equivalent - this is what would be the replacement for the A10M - but Mafell said no...
It's great, light powerful, no squeaking noise on low speed - almost perfect... and then in true Metabo style, a few issues - sometimes the speed controller messes up - this can be no response form the trigger so the drill appears dead; other times a slight squeeze and it does full speed...
So in short, OK for basic work, but nothing delicate where an unexpected full speed burst won't ruin the work - what a shame!
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Post by alvychippy on Sept 20, 2021 13:50:52 GMT -5
If one is after smaller (12v), but reasonable tools... seems better off checking the (red livery) Milwaukee offerings. As many impartial "tests-comparisons" have seen- several like 12v drills/Drivers, Buzz-saw hold out above all other mainstream makers. Hoped, that Metabo was made as per your wish, was designed and made better....
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Post by huntsgemein on Sept 21, 2021 21:33:53 GMT -5
Mine are fine. No problems whatsoever, & with both having EC motors seem to have appreciably more power than their smaller 10.8v predecessors. I have a rattler too. My main complaint is that they're quite a bit larger than the older series. I'm also a bit disappointed that there's "only" a 4.0 AH Li-HD battery max capacity. It wasn't all that long ago that a 4.0 AH storage capacity seemed like science fiction! For me their main advantages are that the batteries are cross-compatible with M's latest chargers & the small offset driving attachment is excellent.
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Post by aas on Sept 22, 2021 13:28:23 GMT -5
Mine are fine. No problems whatsoever, & with both having EC motors seem to have appreciably more power than their smaller 10.8v predecessors. I have a rattler too. My main complaint is that they're quite a bit larger than the older series. I'm also a bit disappointed that there's "only" a 4.0 AH Li-HD battery max capacity. It wasn't all that long ago that a 4.0 AH storage capacity seemed like science fiction! For me their main advantages are that the batteries are crisis-compatible with M's latest chargers & the small offset driving attachment is excellent. Maybe the trigger needs some run in time on mine!.. Yes they are a bit larger, hardly worth it when you compare to the 18v with 2,0ah. I'll be picking up an offset attachment, glad to hear it is good.
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Post by newuser on Sept 22, 2021 22:21:42 GMT -5
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Post by aas on Sept 22, 2021 23:30:43 GMT -5
I'd like to try one - 356$ on you link, 530$ plus tax here - France = land of rip off prices!
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Post by alvychippy on Sept 23, 2021 11:06:22 GMT -5
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Post by aas on Sept 23, 2021 14:10:32 GMT -5
I already have the Mafell A10M, it never used to be a problem, but I no longer like the fat handles of the inserted batteries, so the Milwaukees are out...
I used to use FFX a lot, but since a few people over there got conned into voting for Brexit, they don't ship to France anymore!.. shame, was a well priced site, even with shipping.
I've probably got enough tools already, but I would really like the 'perfect' lightweight everyday drill, nothing fitting the bill yet.
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Post by alvychippy on Sept 23, 2021 14:21:34 GMT -5
then its kinda decided... perhaps worth checking those bellow? www.toolboxbuzz.com/cordless-tools/drilldriver/best-12v-cordless-multi-head-drill-driver/personally have several cheap old AEG attachments with handle (18V), they do new chuck type ones now for Kitchens etc and... KATSU (Makhyta) manufacturers in the past in 12v little drill... that's used ever so seldom, certainly wouldn't try driving screws with it, but at about £40 a kit- good enough
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Post by aas on Sept 24, 2021 0:03:44 GMT -5
The CXS is probably the best I have used, I still have one with a Makita battery on it that I use a lot. The Fein is good, but the trigger rubs on the casing giving friction and far too much pressure required. The Makita CXT is excellent, both hex and chuck versions. Bosch has fat batteries, wasn't too impressed overall. Mafell nice but fat batteries. I will try and test a Hilti one day... in the meantime, I will persevere with the Metabo, it's a fairly nice tool.
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Post by aas on Dec 20, 2021 2:39:47 GMT -5
The trigger seems to be settling in on the Metabo; for low speed precise work, the gearbox needs to be put into 1st - in 2nd it still starts off a bit quick. Overall, it's not an issue in use - I quite like it.
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Post by richie on Jan 17, 2022 8:31:59 GMT -5
In case anyone is wondering, the new Metabo Metabox's are not able to connect with either the old metabo metaloc or tanos systainers. Neither on top or underneath! .. the feet on the back are further inset so they don't hook with the metaloc and the t-loc and metaloc latch don't connect at the front..despite the promo images showing a metaloc in the middle. Absolutely mental.. Bizarrely they will connect on top a classic systainer.. Plus most of them have fixed plastic dividers, so you can't swap the tools about or fit other things in.. ..and to think I laughed at the new systainers messing up the height system. WTF
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Post by alvychippy on Jan 17, 2022 9:18:59 GMT -5
In case anyone is wondering, the new Metabo Metabox's are not able to connect with either the old metabo metaloc or tanos systainers. Neither on top or underneath! .. the feet on the back are further inset so they don't hook with the metaloc and the t-loc and metaloc latch don't connect at the front..despite the promo images showing a metaloc in the middle. Absolutely mental.. Bizarrely they will connect on top a classic systainer.. Plus most of them have fixed plastic dividers, so you can't swap the tools about or fit other things in.. ..and to think I laughed at the new systainers messing up the height system. WTF Ouch! Metabo done it... any chance of few pics on what works, what doesn't?
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Post by richie on Jan 17, 2022 9:50:36 GMT -5
I'm not sure how to load pictures I'm afraid.. But it has 4 angled feet, like the 2 at the back of the systainers, which all hook in. The spinning latch at the front just stops the box from being pulled forward.. it's smooth at the back so doesn't attach to anything, it's just a stop. But the feet are nearer the middle so they miss the hooks at the back of the metaloc and although the back feet catch the back of a systainer.. there's nowhere for them to catch at the front and there's no catch for a t-loc or metaloc latch to spin/hook onto. Basically they're an epic fail.
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Post by alvychippy on Jan 17, 2022 10:31:15 GMT -5
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