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Post by kraftt on Mar 28, 2021 21:18:30 GMT -5
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Post by aas on Mar 31, 2021 13:20:30 GMT -5
Not seen it. I've only recently got into Bosch cordless with the 18v SDS. Was speaking to the main contractor working on my house - they use Mafell, Hilti and Bosch professional - he reckons the Bosch cordless are very good tools.
I have the Makita 18v sander and it is rubbish - loads of vibration, poor dust collection - and not very good at sanding.
Pretty sure the Bosch will be better than that!
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Post by kraftt on Mar 31, 2021 20:00:46 GMT -5
Yes, the chances of it being 'good' are high, they've made some decent sanders in the past etc.
But now that I've had some time to think about it I'm a little concerned about the hose port sticking way out to one side and maybe the battery weight. Cordless is awesome but I would almost always have a hose hooked up.
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Post by aas on Apr 1, 2021 13:52:09 GMT -5
To be honest, I prefer the look of the Festool 125 cordless - can be used with batts and a bag, or mains adapter and vac, also the edge sanding guide...
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Post by holmz on Apr 1, 2021 15:28:44 GMT -5
To be honest, I prefer the look of the Festool 125 cordless - can be used with batts and a bag, or mains adapter and vac, also the edge sanding guide... WHo makes that 125? |
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Post by aas on Apr 2, 2021 5:52:13 GMT -5
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Post by holmz on Apr 2, 2021 16:37:43 GMT -5
I meant... a lot of their tools are rebadged.
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Post by kraftt on Apr 2, 2021 16:57:39 GMT -5
I like the positioning aid, the completeness of the Fest kit, but that handle/grip is awfully high.
I was just hoping that the Bosch, coming so late to the party, was leveraging all the latest and might be a best of breed. But i guess if it had the right people involved in its design it would never have had that vac port off to one side as aggressively as it does.
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Post by aas on Apr 3, 2021 6:28:57 GMT -5
I meant... a lot of their tools are rebadged. I know Festool bought up a lot of smaller tool makers and integrated their products into the Festool range - a lot of the old Protools; MFK700, etc.
I don't see this as a really bad thing in the sense it is better these tools continue being available and made by a decent company, than disappearing as it is too difficult for small manufacturers to continue going it alone...
As far rebadging goes - they obviously have a commercial deal with Fein for the Vecturo, grinders etc., but once again, if someone is on the Festool battery platform, it's cool they can have the best multi-tool without investing in more batteries and chargers.
I don't see it as any different to Mafell tying up with Festool for the LO50 / OF1000 or LO65 / OF2000; with Metabo for the A10M, A18M; Kluge for the Hit-M; and licensing out the KSS to Rothenberger; also if I recall correctly, Mafell have licensed the MF26 to a US company.
In the globalised world which we live, smaller companies find it hard to survive going it alone - we just need to look at the list of companies gobbled up by Festool as proof!.. Elu gobbled up by DeWalt/Black and Decker - which then tied up with Stanley / Fat Max; and then there is the whole Metabo/Hitachi/Hikoki thing going on!
I think the new hybrid sanders from Festool are in house. That's quite a few options possible in one sander.
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Post by kraftt on Apr 3, 2021 10:40:00 GMT -5
aas, how has the reliability on your Mirka's been? All these deros youtube reviews (after they've owned it a while) have me on the fence.
Is it just a reality of owning the tool and worth the trade off?
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Post by aas on Apr 3, 2021 12:10:17 GMT -5
I've had no problems. I think the worse reliability problems were the Ceros - the previous generation with the transformer and low voltage cable - but I might be getting the name and/or info wrong.
I started off leaving the cable on as I'd heard they become dodgy, but I don't pay that much attention to it anymore.
I would prefer a wired in cable I can change if it breaks - or failing that a standardised plug and socket across all manufacturers - but I'm fully aware this won't happen. We're pretty stupid as a society sometimes - (almost) standardised plugs and sockets across Europe - which makes things so much easier and cheaper for manufacturers - then we mess it all up with things like plug in cables for tools that don't mix between Mirka, Festool etc! FFS!
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Post by iban on Apr 26, 2021 2:47:46 GMT -5
It looks quite unbalanced to me with the battery in the back... but we will see
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Post by alvychippy on Apr 26, 2021 16:01:27 GMT -5
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Post by simon on May 8, 2021 8:06:24 GMT -5
I'm considering this sander too. The ergonomics look better than the festool equivalent; slightly bigger orbit (2.5mm vs 2mm); option for putting higher amp batteries than festool's 3.1 ah.
I've had the RTSC for a couple of years, which I've been pleased with - never had reason to use the mains adaptor - the above benefits of the Bosch, together with the lower profile are steering me in that direction. Cost wise (at least here in the U.K.) the Festool basic set is roughly the same as buying the Bosch with a couple of 4ah procore batteries and a charger.
The only review I've found for it is this one -
and he seems to like it. It may be true that a larger battery would put out the balance, but nice to have the option for extending runtime.
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Post by kraftt on May 8, 2021 18:30:44 GMT -5
You know I didn't realize it was 2.5. Just assumed it would have more throw, but that makes sense. I got my 2nd zombie shot yesterday and am under the weather today, as well as a bit loopy. Out of boredom I wondered if I fit dust collection to an old rupes bigfoot with 21mm of throw how it would do. lol, it's aggressive for sure, lowering the speed to 3 helps a tiny bit . But collection is surprisingly good. I only have a 125mm / 5" pad for it and just ordered a 150/6", which it's supposed to use, and will see if that balances it a bit more.   |
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