Post by Knight Woodworks on Aug 18, 2020 8:29:39 GMT -5
I own a DD40 and the templates, got it to do casework on site. It works well, I'm happy with it. The quality is what you would expect from Mafell. If I was primarily shop based and had the space I would prefer a line boring machine and Domino or a biscuit joiner.
Which machine, if either, would depend on what you are building. Unless you're planning to make a lot of cabinets rabbets, dados, glue and screws are hard to beat. OTOH, besides aiding in cabinet construction, dowels, biscuits or dominos are nice for aligning face frames and nosing as well as reinforcing trim joinery.
If you decide to get a DD I would recommend 110v. Besides resale, there will come a time when you'll want to take it out of the shop.
In truth, I think I've narrowed it down to the DDF40 vs the Lamello. My current use case I don't want to have something that I "need" to buy specialty assembly parts (dominos), and (unless I'm mistaken) you can turn off the spring component and use regular biscuits on the Lamello.
Yes, but you need to buy a 'normal' biscuit blade too, the Zeta blade has a thicker profile with the T teeth. However, this is a total waste of a machine, best to just buy a basic biscuit jointer - these are for basic alignment and not for precision - it's like buying a sports car and putting cheap trailer tyres on it as you don't want to buy 'special' high speed tyres - yes it will work, but what a waste.
It depends what you need to join. The DD40 with the accessory rail gives unbelievable precision, far better than the Domino or Zeta (I have all three, I'm not shouting about the DD40 because it's Mafell)... they all have their place, I wouldn't want to be without any of them - I also have a biscuit joiner and it is the least used joining machine.
aas, you have the DD40P (and anyone else), are there many differences between the DDF40 and the DD40P? Seems the DDF is a tad smaller, (cheaper) but comes with some more extras (at least in the packages I've found).
If you're in the US and can get it in 110v, do that... it will be easier to sell one day if you want/need to.
While I kinda-sorta agree, having a transformer or a 220v dryier plug to use... then allows for a bunch of tool in the 220/240v range that are available. i would even probably almost consider the FT chop saw in 230, as I think that most of the motor loosing smoke issues were in the 110v models?
But one would more than likely need to be in a shop with some 220/221v outlets.
it is not a bad idea to have 220v, it is just not a normal thought for North Americans to consider.
Yes I have the DD40P, but not the DDF40. To me the latter seems more geared towards carcass building, and it's maybe easier to use due to the referencing off the base - much like the Zeta. The DD40P is a beast and kind of covers all grounds, from carcass building up to some fairly beefy joinery - 2x 16mm dowels provide a very strong fixing.
I'm not sure if the 'extras' of the DDF are useful/accurate; I think you can't go wrong with the DD40P and the rail - but then it's more money, and not being able to reference off the base can take a bit of getting used to.
I currently have some built ins I want to put together, as well as some shelving units that I'd like to have as few dadoes as I can; I am not rich enough for the MF26cc at the moment and routers make such an unreal mess I dislike them on principle.
I don't currently foresee using it for framing joints (or at least anything that might resemble structural) like stairs.
From what I see, being able to drill out 32mm holes in addition to building the frames with the DDF and the smaller size, I'm leaning a little that way, especially since it looks like the DDF does up to 1/2" dowels, while I'd need two Dominoes to cover the whole range.
I'd go for the DDF40 - it's ideal for this sort of thing. The Zeta is great, but the fittings add up quickly - OK when it's a customer paying of course. Ideally you want to pair the Zeta with a DDF40 for using the excellent Lamello Divario for concealed shelf fittings - but now we're starting to get very spendy!
The DDF40 should do all you need, you can get different sized bits from CMT if need be (they are slightly cheaper and decent quality) - and dowels can be picked up anywhere.
abdon: I stand corrected , the angle fence is only attaches with F -Tracks , what confused me was , that the Timberwolf site mentioned it will work with the NFU machine, yes it will work but only I guess when you use the Ftrack , with other tracks Like the KSS L.
Nov 28, 2020 22:52:01 GMT -5
glynnco: Did you order from GereedschapPro? I see them as in stock but I'm located in the US and am not sure if they ship here. I sent them an email asking about shipping but it was returned undeliverable...
Dec 10, 2020 7:37:40 GMT -5
jonathan: I've purchased a lot of stuff from our neighbours @ GereedschapPro.nl As far as I know they are one of the larger Mafell dealers in the EU. I can recommend them, they usually respond quickly.
Dec 11, 2020 13:58:36 GMT -5
NFU 50 Transportation?: Hi Guys, is there some Systainer for the NFU 50?
Dec 11, 2020 14:30:12 GMT -5
frezik24: Hello everyone
Dec 13, 2020 9:20:00 GMT -5
lasse: Thanks for the tip! I have own a mafell rail which is 160 cm and one that is 80 cm. Will it work just as well or will I need to buy rail that is 110 cm?
Mar 18, 2021 15:35:15 GMT -5