The bloke in the garage
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Post by The bloke in the garage on Mar 3, 2020 15:50:01 GMT -5
Apologies for asking a contentious question. I'd like to buy a new table saw. My major concern is safety and then quality after that. I don't need it for breaking down sheet goods as I have a track saw for that. i use hand tools as much as possible but there are some things that are a PITA to do with a hand tool.
I'm considering an erika vs the new festool tks80 with saw stop. The latter is obvious in its safety aims but I have seen and discussed with people that the eirka is inherently safe due to the push pull design etc.
While I have a feeling choices will expand, Altendorf, Felder et al coming up with finger saving technologies, I wondered if anyone had any insight into the introduction of similar at Mafell or thoughts between the safety of the two.
I'm quite attached to my fingers as I'm an amateur word worker and professional surgeon. Missing digits would be highly problematic.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by The bloke in the garage on Mar 3, 2020 15:51:11 GMT -5
*wood not word!
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Post by kraftt on Mar 3, 2020 17:38:36 GMT -5
Can’t speak to one vs other, only the words “professional surgeon”.
Finger sensing tech seems like the lowest bar possible, with suggesting another hobby coming in first.
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Post by alvychippy on Mar 4, 2020 8:48:39 GMT -5
so one more of those Vs questions... don't have neither, but going by work with Routers... generalised, but opinion, if I may FesT is way more user friendly refined by design, Mafell is way more performance oriented
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Mar 4, 2020 10:18:35 GMT -5
Agree with the comment that Festool routers tend to be a little more refined than their Mafell counterparts, I'd argue that the Mafell saws are both more refined and powerful than their Festool cousins.
Regarding the flesh-sensing technology, it's important to note that if you touch the spinning blade you DO still run the risk of getting a cut, so you'd have to decide how much injury you're willing to risk. In the early days of Sawstop, my memory is that the marketing was that you were trading a potential amputation for a cut.
If I were a professional surgeon, I wouldn't risk the damage to my fingers from the Sawstop system, and/or woodworking in general.
Regarding TKS80 vs ERIKA 85, I'd suggest that if you'll be mostly ripping, then the TKS80 would likely be a decent match since it's primarily a table saw, presumably with some crosscutting capability using the sliding table attachment.
If, on the other hand, you plan on making a lot of cross-cuts, then I'd steer you towards the Erika saws, which if anything seem very slightly more optimized as a cross-cutting tool than a ripping tool.
If you're really worried about injury, I'd look at the new Felder PCS technology, it activates the protection system BEFORE you contact the spinning blade (technology starts at ~2:00):
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Post by kraftt on Mar 4, 2020 20:14:20 GMT -5
I like that compared to the saw stop the hot dogs are not damaged and you can use them again for the next cut.
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Post by lincoln on Mar 5, 2020 3:24:52 GMT -5
Seeing as an Erika is super expensive to import to Aus, I'm seriously considering one of these Festool saws - which will be available down here.
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