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Post by wrightwoodwork on Dec 24, 2013 17:53:29 GMT -5
Been thinking of next year's tool wish list ,here's my list paslode im65s , hilti pd4 laser level, Schreppach Plana 2.0c, mafell kss80ec , mafell mf26cc on a trial period then decide , a new 1/2 inch router the mafell lo65 or festool of2200, extension table for the Erika and router guide attachment, and lamello zeta . What are other people tool wish lists . I plan to do more of my own projects to sell
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Post by jalvis on Dec 25, 2013 10:32:29 GMT -5
Thats a nice list. The of2200 is on my list. What an amazing router. Also the Zeta is on my list but its been hard to justify since I have the DD40 and the Domino 500.
Honestly my goal will be to move into a commercial shop space. Upgrade Dust collection to the Felder RL collector with Nordfab ducting. Then a Wide Belt Sander thats a minimum 37."
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Dec 25, 2013 12:11:29 GMT -5
I take that will be a larger premises. What do you do with your saw dust waste? Some companies here have brickequetinge machines and then sell the waste. I was at some university talk last year on glulam beams and with all there waste they used to produce all there own power and heating so they where not on the grid
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Post by jalvis on Dec 25, 2013 22:18:50 GMT -5
Yes, It will be larger. Hopefully a lot larger but I don't know how much since I'm still doing my homework.
Currently I have several 1.5 HP Jet collectors; one with a Dust Dog filter. They work good if the machine is close to the collector but once theres more space a ducted system will be much better. One reason I'm looking at the Felder RL collectors is do to the system being setup in the shop rather than outside. My goal is to have a really clean and safe environment to work.
The briquette machine would be great for wood heat. I don't know of any commercial locations in my area that allow wood source heat. The only shops that do have wood burning heat are those who build there own shops near there home. Although with all my off cuts during the year I end up with a cord or two for personal use.
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Post by jalvis on Dec 26, 2013 13:53:33 GMT -5
What are your plans with MF26?
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Post by GhostFist on Dec 26, 2013 16:59:36 GMT -5
For me right now its just getting my bench built with the accessories I have planned for it, I'll post on that as it happens. Willing to drop for the p1cc but responsibly, it's not a need right now. I think an Erika should be next but that wont be until later in the year
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Dec 26, 2013 17:43:54 GMT -5
I have a good customer relationship with the distributes for mafell in the uk. The plan is to get the mf26 on a demonstration period. Then use it on a house for the drywall with the sheeting for the folding of the sheets and cutting up the sheets using the rails and attached to hoover. Use it for pipe boxes, folding sheets at the Window ingoes. For the ground floors gets a floating floor and 3x2 runners which need checks taken out for the pipes using the expanding cutter. Also for making housing joints when making door frames. That will be it's main uses at work. Then for my own personal projects is use it to makes grooves for shelves to fit into , where a fixed shelf might be placed, also I believe the expanding groove cutter is more efficient at grooves than the router as the way the cuts in the direction of the grain when making grooves also I think could be used to make rebates and half lap joints. Also with the slot cutters I'm thinking could be used as simple way to for curves to be produced in sheet goods like veneered mdf panels and oak furniture panels , instead of laminating thin timbers and placing in a form and gluing with the likes of a 2 part glue, which is a lot of work. If it's able to do most of them tasks nice and simply and cut down the time cutting plasterboard and reduce the dust from dressing the edge of the sheets as the dust will be collected at source. Not that I struggle with cutting plasterboard with a knife as is the norm here but is dusty. Just have to see how it works. It is something I'd like to try. It's not how people work here but I believe in trying new ways. The last day at work before the holidays just had a small roof to put the sarking on as only small and didn't have a lot to do I left the kss in the van and did it the old fashioned way the hand saw took the full day where using the kss it would have been done just over a couple of hours. Making it roughly 4 times faster than the old way. I not working any harder it's just more effective. At the end of that day the boss quietly realized how much time using the saw saved over the old way
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Post by GhostFist on Dec 26, 2013 19:29:19 GMT -5
Cool excited to hear your feedback.
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Post by jalvis on Dec 26, 2013 21:52:43 GMT -5
For me right now its just getting my bench built with the accessories I have planned for it, I'll post on that as it happens. Willing to drop for the p1cc but responsibly, it's not a need right now. I think an Erika should be next but that wont be until later in the year Are you building a traditional workbench? Everything I'm talking about is for later in the year as well. Hopefully in the Fall of 2014.
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Post by 7 on Dec 29, 2013 1:33:58 GMT -5
I'm interested in the Festool domino XL700. Problem is I do mainly general construction not furniture, doors, beds etc.
My guess is that if I bought it I would end up using it just like every other tool I have purchased but difficult to justify for now.
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Post by nyctinyshop on Dec 29, 2013 7:47:09 GMT -5
I own the both the Domino 700 XL and the 500. For any build using 8/4 or larger, the XL will save much time and give you a solid joint. It proved its value, after it joined three builds in the time it would usually take one. If you use 8/4 regularly, then the XL is highly recommended.
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Post by jalvis on Dec 29, 2013 16:18:47 GMT -5
I think the Mafell DD40 and Domino 700 would make the best combination. Especially since the 700 has the aftermarket third party bits so you can use any size domino.
I got such a good deal on the 500 I couldn't resist but If I were buying new it would be the 700.
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Post by 7 on Dec 31, 2013 0:49:01 GMT -5
I agree with your ideal joinery tool combo. The more I look the more I would like the large Festool 2200 router as well. Anyone know how the bigger Mafell compares?
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Dec 31, 2013 6:42:10 GMT -5
I'm a little in the same boat I haven't used either to do work, but have looked at both and picked up both I'm the shop. On first impression I thought the mafell had a better balance of weigh and didn't feel heavy, the weight felt like it was in your hands 5.7kg . Where the festool I felt was top heavy and the weight was above your hands making it, I thought feel heavy 7.8kg. The mafell is 2600w compared to the festool 2200w, but properly don't need that extra power unless doing the likes of arunda conections, Evan though the festool is capable of doing the same it is the minimum recommend power by arunda. The mafell shafts is meant to be the most stable as it is guided by 3 bearings at the top and 3 bearings at the bottom. Making the shady completely stable, not 100%sure of the festool arrangement. The festool has plunge depth of 80mm where the mafell has only 65mm the festool typical has all the fancy extra base plates which I personally don't know if really nessary, but some say are and will buy every extra. There is that clever jig system that I can't remember what it's called, but not 100%sure if you have to festool router to use on it or any router can be made to work with it and with an adapter the festool can be made to work their guide rails. Where the mafell does not have the vast array of extras just having the couple of guide rails one of which is nice and simple and the other is designed for making stairs but is designed more for the European way of making stairs, also there is a roller edge guide but not sure how it's used. The template guides on the festool just clip on and off where the mafell are screwed on properly not that important if using to doing the same task for a while, only important if changing tasks every 5 minutes. Also the festool has the ratcheting system for changing the cutters and the mafell don't, but same as before properly only important if changing cutters all the time. Overall both will be excellent routers with the good and bad points over each other. There's no right or wrong choice. Personally I prefer the mafell as I feel the balance a weight are more comfortable where the festool is not and is my biggest gripe with it the other feature and extras of the festool as nice as they are not important to me as when I set up the router I tend to do the same task for a while so aren't changing cutters and template guides every 5 minutes. The only thing to me wrong with the mafell is it is not available in 110v which unfortunately I need for uk site work. So will properly get the Dewalt for site work and when feeling a little more flush with money look at getting the mafell for my own personal projects
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Post by 7 on Dec 31, 2013 20:02:38 GMT -5
I didn't realize the Mafell 65 wasn't available in 110 V. I noticed in the Mafell catalogue that it was listed as 220 but figured they probably had it in 110 also like a lot of their other tools. I was looking forward to more discussion comparing the two, that one factor would make up my mind.
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