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Post by jimbouk on Sept 7, 2019 10:58:54 GMT -5
Like the look of this, think its going to be the system of choice for me in my next van.
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Sept 9, 2019 8:03:01 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting! Is it an all-in-one system (drawers+frame), or are they just selling the drawers, you provide the frame?
I'm pretty heavily invested in the Festool/Tanos Sys-AZ drawers, and am in the final stages of designing a new batch of plywood van shelving. I'll be interested to keep an eye on this!
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Post by kraftt on Sept 9, 2019 10:24:23 GMT -5
I like it. But it seems the only thing they are selling that you can’t already get is the metal tray. The rest being 80/20 and locking drawer slides. - link / link
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Sept 9, 2019 15:40:24 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting! Is it an all-in-one system (drawers+frame), or are they just selling the drawers, you provide the frame? I'm pretty heavily invested in the Festool/Tanos Sys-AZ drawers, and am in the final stages of designing a new batch of plywood van shelving. I'll be interested to keep an eye on this! Tom, Please share your new van shelving. John
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Post by jimbouk on Sept 9, 2019 16:24:55 GMT -5
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Post by kraftt on Sept 9, 2019 18:15:42 GMT -5
This has made me realize you can just build a catch into almost any existing drawer slides - I never thought of that and as I have a bunch of 36”/900mm 300lb/125kg drawer slides sitting of the shelve (for years) this might be the answer to finally implement them. Slam latches work fine too but can be difficult find the right size / strength / and then integrate a handle for floor of vehicle pull outs drawer faces. A simple catch built into existing slides seems like an elegant solution.
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Sept 10, 2019 8:53:29 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting! Is it an all-in-one system (drawers+frame), or are they just selling the drawers, you provide the frame? I'm pretty heavily invested in the Festool/Tanos Sys-AZ drawers, and am in the final stages of designing a new batch of plywood van shelving. I'll be interested to keep an eye on this! Tom, Please share your new van shelving. John Hi John! Unfortunately, my new van racking is in various stages of production in my shop. Work's pretty busy these days, and when I'm not working for customers I'm scrambling to install hardwood floors in our home so we can move out of the basement before the snow flies. So, unfortunately I'm stuck stealing a few minutes here and there to advance the van project. I'll be bumping from a Sprinter 2500 to a Sprinter 3500 this Winter, so the goal is to have the shelving ready by January. I already have dozens of the Sys-AZ drawers, so I'm inclined to just keep using them, and I'm set up for processing plywood (I prefer Baltic Birch for van cabinets). In a nutshell, here's the layout for a 170" wheelbase Sprinter (14' long cargo area): Driver side, from back to front: -- Bumper-facing cabinet with storage for 2x MFT/3 tables and 8x RUWI beams. -- Bank of four "Systainer Lockers". These will be cabinets designed to accommodate Sys-AZ drawer slides. I'll build a box around the wheel well, then set the cabinets on the wheel well box. Cabinet dimensions to be 460mm deep, 463mm wide, and I think I'm aiming for a cabinet height of 1540mm. This leaves enough room for Systainers (or similarly sized objects) to be stored on top of the cabinets. -- The front cabinet is still in the design stage, but it will be a deeper stack of modular cabinets (so I can adjust if need be). Bottom cabinet to accommodate a 2' double sided step ladder, Honda EU3000is HANDI generator, and a Starmix iPulse (I have Mafell and Metabo) vac. Middle cabinet to accommodate my ERIKA 70. This cabinet will be ~26" deep, ~1250mm long, not sure about height quite yet. -- There should be enough room between the front cabinet and the partition to allow me to store a Little Giant-style ladder and possibly a Pelican 1750 for longer parts Passenger side, back to front: -- Bank of six "Systainer Lockers". I'll build another box the height of the wheel wells, this time open on the back end to allow me to access my Stabila levels and Mafell F-tracks from the street. Dimensions of these "Lockers" to match the driver side. There will be space above for storage of additional Systainers or other toolboxes. This is a refinement of my current system. It works pretty well, but after two years I've identified some areas that could use improvement. As a side note, I've been using the TSO parallel guides with a FS1900 track and my MT-55cc to process the Baltic Birch I'm using for the cabinets. The TSO guides are a complete game changer, and have really made it a breeze to process the panels.
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Sept 13, 2019 11:47:17 GMT -5
Tom,
Thanks for taking the time to reply. The layout of the new Sprinter sounds great, hope you finish the racking in time.
Special thanks for the heads up on the TSO parallel guides, I’ll look into them.
John
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Post by yetihunter on Sept 21, 2019 13:52:12 GMT -5
www.systainer3.com/en/systainer_3.aspFestool worked with Bott on their new systainers. I presume they’re going after Sortimo, competition-wise. I have no details but probably worth looking into.
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Post by lincoln on Jan 1, 2020 1:02:25 GMT -5
tom - any progress with the van racking?
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Post by aas on Jan 1, 2020 11:31:46 GMT -5
www.systainer3.com/en/systainer_3.aspFestool worked with Bott on their new systainers. I presume they’re going after Sortimo, competition-wise. I have no details but probably worth looking into. The new Systainer³ look nice, built in grooves for van racking... a basic Sys4 size is about 85€... it's a plastic box FFS! I've got a new van to rack out, thought these and the Bott system would be pretty cool - priced it all up for almost 8000€... I'll be sticking with AUER boxes at 19€ for a Sys4 size, and some plywood!
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Post by jimbouk on Jan 13, 2020 4:45:36 GMT -5
Yeah the commercial racking is so expensive. Even that gs tool system one in the op runs about 3500 for a whole van. I use the euro crate storage boxes and systainers, tstak and hilti boxes.
Trying to noodle a good hybrid wood/metal system. Currently looking into a local firm press cutting and folding metal shelves and legs.
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Post by aas on Jan 13, 2020 11:54:16 GMT -5
I was wondering about using aluminium profile for the frame as it's so adjustable, then plywood for the shelves - but even that is expensive and fairly time consuming. So it will be a complete plywood/wood build. The big problem up here in the mountains is that 'nothing' stays on the shelves!.. so it requires every box to be held in place; for loose tools, batteries, chargers etc., the shelf needs a serious angle, and even then sometimes I hear crashing behind me as something flies off a shelf; for the new build, I'm thinking of increasing shelf angle from 30 to 45 deg.
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Post by Adrian654 on May 28, 2020 5:31:14 GMT -5
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Post by aas on May 28, 2020 14:47:06 GMT -5
Most Mafell tools come in Systainers, so unlikely to come across Sortimo users here... I could be wrong of course!
I find these ready to fit systems exorbitantly expensive (coming from a big Mafell user, I know!)... I priced up fitting out my new VW Crafter with a Bott system, 12000€ + ... forget it, that's a lot of nice tools!
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