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Post by kraftt on Sept 7, 2019 10:51:39 GMT -5
jimbouk wrote - "Over here in brexit land festool is holding value ok. It amazes me what people are willing to pay. All the stuff i have sold on has worked out well. Fwiw there are a few select festools i love and the rest are matched or bettered by other brands."
That’s a hell of a pyramid scheme or lease deal - buy tools to use and sell them off in a couple of years so the cost of use was negligible. Now I understand the motivation behind the evangelism on the FOG forums.
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Post by jimbouk on Sept 7, 2019 12:10:12 GMT -5
I know its nuts right!? I have come to the same conclusion, the hype generated by the fog and IG helps secure good resale values. Same age tools from other brands here just dont hold value.
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Post by yetihunter on Sept 17, 2019 21:07:34 GMT -5
brice - Do not sell Festool to buy Metabo. This held true in 2000. It holds true in 2020. Depends what... the Metabo drills (same as Mafell) are excellent - I'd prefer them to a Festool. Impact driver?.. I think Festool don't do one anymore. Metabo grinders are excellent, not tried the new 18v Festool, but my 230v Festool 125mm grinder went up in smoke after a year of limited use.
Circular saws?.. OK so you have point - don't ever buy the KS57!
My Metabo drill can lap any Festool drill and lap it ten times more. But I did keep a Festool drill for every other reason. The grinders I’m happy with (cordless and corded). I can’t fault any of their metalworking equipment (it’s not my area, though). Unfortunately...I did buy the KS57. The annoying part is that it’s really nicely weighted/balanced, feature rich, has a mafell/festool style safety lock, a good arbor lock, good bevel locking knobs, injection molded plastic parts where others use crappy stamped steel. Everything is there, it just has handles that will cut your fingers off and it can’t make a good cut to save it’s life. edit: Coincidentally, I used the heck out my cordless Metabo grinder (WPB 18 LTX BL 150) with 115mm/4.5” wheels/discs today. Murdered a lot of rebar and only lost one bar on the Mafell 5.5 ah. It performed superbly. It’s better than the corded Metabo I’ve been holding onto for a decade. Coupled with Walter discs, it was a flawless experience.
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Post by henrun on Oct 11, 2019 14:48:42 GMT -5
Brice ( coming soon to US the 165 ? ?) i was tempting to ask hemrun how he ordered his I ordered my DRA3606 (165mm) through Buyee.jp, I would advise not to buy anything weighing in at 15kg or more since the EMS air shipping fee will kick you in the nuts if you do. I learnt this the other day when paying shipping fee for the Makita mini slider... ...it clocks in at 16kg with packaging and added some 40% to the price of machine! Could not back out of the deal as I had already paid for the machine to be sent to the forwarding service.
I figure it will still be only slightly more expensive than if the saw was sold over here, around 15-20% and considering it might not ever make it over here I might be the only lucky guy in the country who actually has one so it is worth it, I keep telling myself.
For smaller items it is still not "cheap" to send but I find it worth the while to get that specific tool you can't find elsewhere.
As for the Hitachi/Hikoki mini mitre slider it is actually my Best Buy mitre saw of all time so I am happy I went through the trouble of getting it. Hope the same goes for the Makita. I will have to be very careful not to leave any of them on site anywhere or in the car overnight since losing them would really sting. Not for the price or for the product itself, they are just machines, but for the hassle of replacing them...
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Post by henrun on Oct 11, 2019 14:53:15 GMT -5
Depends what... the Metabo drills (same as Mafell) are excellent - I'd prefer them to a Festool. Impact driver?.. I think Festool don't do one anymore. Metabo grinders are excellent, not tried the new 18v Festool, but my 230v Festool 125mm grinder went up in smoke after a year of limited use.
Circular saws?.. OK so you have point - don't ever buy the KS57!
My Metabo drill can lap any Festool drill and lap it ten times more. But I did keep a Festool drill for every other reason. The grinders I’m happy with (cordless and corded). I can’t fault any of their metalworking equipment (it’s not my area, though). Unfortunately...I did buy the KS57. The annoying part is that it’s really nicely weighted/balanced, feature rich, has a mafell/festool style safety lock, a good arbor lock, good bevel locking knobs, injection molded plastic parts where others use crappy stamped steel. Everything is there, it just has handles that will cut your fingers off and it can’t make a good cut to save it’s life. edit: Coincidentally, I used the heck out my cordless Metabo grinder (WPB 18 LTX BL 150) with 115mm/4.5” wheels/discs today. Murdered a lot of rebar and only lost one bar on the Mafell 5.5 ah. It performed superbly. It’s better than the corded Metabo I’ve been holding onto for a decade. Coupled with Walter discs, it was a flawless experience. I think a few of us are going through the same hoops with our gear.
I ditched all my Festool 18V gear some time ago. I still have two boxes full of Centrotec drills, metal drills, countersinks and other goodies which I can't bear to sell. I have a Festool T12Li at the workshop and a CXS for on site small work. I am considering getting a C18 or T18 again with the compact batteries just to use all my paraphernalia. I have all the chucks already so a Basic kit isn't that expensive. I just prefer the T12 weight and balance so will run it to the ground before committing.
All my other drills: Hitachi/Hikoki and Bosch 18V run circles around Festool for sheer grunt.
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