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Post by sandes on May 11, 2019 21:01:59 GMT -5
Hi, first post. I am very close to pulling the plug and transitioning to the mafell track ecosystem. I will be selling my ts75 and fs tracks and getting a kss60, and eventually mt55. My one concern is if it is possible to use the mf tracks with my of 1400. My understanding is it isn't, but is there any work around? I don't use the router/track combo often, but it is pretty essential when I need it. Thanks for the help and thank you all who have posted on this forum. It has been a great resource!
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Post by MrToolJunkie on May 11, 2019 23:53:23 GMT -5
You would have to fill the slot with a piece of wood or something and then cut a 2mm slot (or thereabouts to fit the rib of the Mafell guides). The edge of the FT tracks is ground dead square and straight, so you can also run the router against the edge. Bosch has a plate for routers too that might work with the FT router lining up the holes.
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Post by aas on May 12, 2019 2:29:06 GMT -5
It really depends what you want to be doing. As ToolJunkie said, you can run the router against the edge. I have the Bosch OFA rail adaptor, it is not a brilliant piece of engineering, but it can help out in odd situations.
I have tracks from Mafell, (and Bosch), Festool and Virutex - in the workshop, I use the Festool more than anything. They grip to the work piece without clamps far better than the Mafell tracks (I'd like to try putting some of the Festool non-slip tape on the Mafell tracks - I don't know if anyone has tried it...).
But for routing, I mainly use the Virutex tracks (UCP90 etc.) These are very solid flat rails with 3 non-slip tapes on, can be used with Festool clamps and have a unique feature... one of the sides has a V profile near the bottom. This means that if you rout up against it, you have less friction against the router, but also, if you run the router on top of the rail using a guide bush, the cutter can come up above the workpiece without touching the rail.
If the router/track combo is essential when you need it, hang on to the setup you have until you find a decent working alternative.
In case you didn't know already, the MT55 does run perfectly on the Festool rails, you could dip your toe in the water by buying this first without changing your main setup, but I suspect as you mention the KSS60 as a first purchase, you have reasons for needing a carpentry saw.
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Post by kraftt on May 12, 2019 22:40:12 GMT -5
Only because you mentioned ‘workaround’ : the guide rail connector can be drilled and countersunk from the bottom, to pass two brass flat head bolts through, allowing you to then adapt to rods or a wood step down plate etc. that connects router etc.
If you only lightly snug up the connector’s eccentrics the steel plate still slides but without any slop. Of course you would want to clamp rail at both ends though.
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Post by sandes on May 14, 2019 20:54:09 GMT -5
Yah, my thought was I would get some of the mf tracks and then see what I could come up with to make it work with the router. It is really just the rare occasion I use it for dados and I recently smoothed up a paper stone countertop edge with the track that turned out nicely. Aas, I wasn't aware of the ft tracks being the better of the two for grip. I look forward to comparing when I get my mf tracks. My current saw combo is my Kapex for trim, ts75 for built-ins, slabs, etc, Makita 10-1/4 for beam work/fence posts etc., and a worm drive for framing. I am also more familiar with side-winders.The Kss60 will replace my worm drive as well as outside work like fencing and decks I would have allocated for the Kapex and ts75. Also, the hope is with the right blades,it will replace the ts75 for table/countertop slabs and panel work(until I can swing getting the mt55). Kraft, sounds like I'll be doing something like you suggested. We'll see how it all goes when I get my new toys!
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Post by aas on May 15, 2019 1:03:43 GMT -5
If it's just 'to make something work' with the router, you could use the Bosch OFA as the base. There is a bit of 'slop' in the adjustment. If you wind it all the way out, the slop gets taken up, but then the weight of the router over hangs the rail, so you will need to make up a foot to support the weight. This works OK providing you don't need the fine adjustment. There are other ways of modifying it, but it will give you a 'ready to go' base to start from.
I wouldn't personally want to be doing build-ins and worktops etc., with a KSS saw. Maybe someone would like to correct me, but I think it is more than just the blade that provides clean accurate cuts, I understand that plunge saws have a different toe-in to carpentry saws.
My best advice would be to not sell anything until you are happy with the replacements, it at least gives you a fall back to keep working.
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Post by bicycleclip on May 15, 2019 4:08:48 GMT -5
Hi, first post. I am very close to pulling the plug and transitioning to the mafell track ecosystem. I will be selling my ts75 and fs tracks and getting a kss60, and eventually mt55. My one concern is if it is possible to use the mf tracks with my of 1400. My understanding is it isn't, but is there any work around? I don't use the router/track combo often, but it is pretty essential when I need it. Thanks for the help and thank you all who have posted on this forum. It has been a great resource! Edit: The 1400 is not on the compatibility list (you’d have to drill your own holes). The Bosch FSN OFA 32 guide kit is all you need. ####You fit the 1400 to the base and it works on the MF tracks####. If you buy the kit with the peforated Bosch rail it does the same thing as the Festool LR32 system. Of course, you can use it with any Mafell or Bosch rail. |
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Post by jimh on Apr 9, 2020 16:48:32 GMT -5
Hi, first post. I am very close to pulling the plug and transitioning to the mafell track ecosystem. I will be selling my ts75 and fs tracks and getting a kss60, and eventually mt55. My one concern is if it is possible to use the mf tracks with my of 1400. My understanding is it isn't, but is there any work around? I don't use the router/track combo often, but it is pretty essential when I need it. Thanks for the help and thank you all who have posted on this forum. It has been a great resource! The Bosch FSN OFA 32 guide kit is all you need. You fit the 1400 to the base and it works on the MF tracks. If you buy the kit with the peforated Bosch rail it does the same thing as the Festool LR32 system. Of course, you can use it with any Mafell or Bosch rail. Are you sure the FSA OFA 32 fits the 1400 as well as the 1010? |
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Post by jimh on Apr 9, 2020 16:50:51 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Mafell LO-FA Fence will fit on a Festool OF 1400 or OF 2200? Looks like it could, but without seeing one I'd be hesitant to buy one and hope it works. Maybe a UK or EU member could try at their Festool/Mafell dealer. In the US there is only one Mafell dealer and they do not carry Festool.
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Post by bicycleclip on Apr 11, 2020 16:37:04 GMT -5
The Bosch FSN OFA 32 guide kit is all you need. You fit the 1400 to the base and it works on the MF tracks. If you buy the kit with the peforated Bosch rail it does the same thing as the Festool LR32 system. Of course, you can use it with any Mafell or Bosch rail. Are you sure the FSA OFA 32 fits the 1400 as well as the 1010? Sorry, you’re absolutely right. They are not straightforwardly compatible AFAIK. I got mixed up with the 1010. I should leave a comment on my original post in case anyone finds it. Thanks for calling that out. |
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Post by jimh on Apr 12, 2020 8:35:33 GMT -5
Are you sure the FSA OFA 32 fits the 1400 as well as the 1010? Sorry, you’re absolutely right. They are not straightforwardly compatible AFAIK. I got mixed up with the 1010. I should leave a comment on my original post in case anyone finds it. Thanks for calling that out. Dang. One can dream. The adjuster of the FSA OFA 32 it so well designed. |
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