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Post by GhostFist on Mar 18, 2014 17:32:02 GMT -5
on hand i have a lot of festool blades but tbh the bosch progressors are better by far for clean cuts. the supplied mafell blades are nice, but not as easy to come by here, honestly the cut quality with the bosch blades is more than good enough. as for running the blade backwards on the TRION, don't do this! the guide jaws impede the blade and you'll ruin both
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Post by taz on Mar 18, 2014 19:04:27 GMT -5
on hand i have a lot of festool blades but tbh the bosch progressors are better by far for clean cuts. the supplied mafell blades are nice, but not as easy to come by here, honestly the cut quality with the bosch blades is more than good enough. as for running the blade backwards on the TRION, don't do this! the guide jaws impede the blade and you'll ruin both Yes, I figured it may not be a good idea and did not risk it as I want to sell the trion lol.
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Post by 7 on Mar 18, 2014 20:32:35 GMT -5
Wrightwoodwork, that is indeed expensive for such a simple piece. Taz, glad to hear you like what you see I have to say though, I'm a bit amazed to read so many posts of people that choose to put the P1cc through it's paces with generic blades. I understand that's what you have lying around, but still, Mafell must have had a good reason to design their their own special blades & not just because. Seems a bit like driving a racecar with the brakes of a regular car. (I know, bad analogy, can't come up with a better one ) I have had better luck with standard blades than the W1cunex blade (double blade). The W1 isn't long enough to cut anything thicker than 8/4 stock. I tried to cut one layer of the 8/4 cherry (in p1cc perfection thread) with the W1 blade and it didn't work well at all and felt like it could ruin the saw so went to a standard bosch blade and the cherry felt like butter and the cut was perfectly square. The other Mafell blades are identical to various Bosch blades & must come out of the same factory. I can post pictures of them side by side if anyone is interested.
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Post by woodie on Mar 18, 2014 21:39:47 GMT -5
I have to say though, I'm a bit amazed to read so many posts of people that choose to put the P1cc through it's paces with generic blades. I understand that's what you have lying around, but still, Mafell must have had a good reason to design their their own special blades & not just because. Seems a bit like driving a racecar with the brakes of a regular car. (I know, bad analogy, can't come up with a better one ) Aren't the standard Mafell blades just rebranded Bosch blades (excluding the W1)?
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Mar 18, 2014 21:45:34 GMT -5
I played around with various Bosch blades and Festool blades and had great success with Bosch, mixed with Festool. What is weird is that on my Bosch jigsaw, the Festool blades work better than the Bosch. Go figure. Did not try the Mafell -- really do not want to waste the $40+ dollar Cunex on test material...not sure what I would use it on really and unless it really cut well, doubt I would buy it.
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Post by woodie on Mar 18, 2014 21:57:51 GMT -5
I played around with various Bosch blades and Festool blades and had great success with Bosch, mixed with Festool. What is weird is that on my Bosch jigsaw, the Festool blades work better than the Bosch. Go figure. Did not try the Mafell -- really do not want to waste the $40+ dollar Cunex on test material...not sure what I would use it on really and unless it really cut well, doubt I would buy it. $42.80 is for two Cunex blades, so it's only $21.40 per blade .
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Post by 7 on Mar 18, 2014 22:52:40 GMT -5
I am sure the others must cross over too but here are two examples of the Mafell blades being identical to Bosch blades.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Mar 18, 2014 23:39:13 GMT -5
Yeah...not sure the appeal of buying Mafell blades when they are the same as Bosch. Obviously the special blade is one thing if you need that one, but I like the Bosch blades and they are relatively cheap and easy to obtain.
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Post by jonathan on Mar 19, 2014 3:19:33 GMT -5
I use my P1cc almost exclusively with the W1. I do think it's rather aggressive. Have had good results after I got used to it. But good to know the rest of the range is just Bosch. Thanks for the info guys, might save me a few bucks
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Post by 7 on Mar 20, 2014 0:41:47 GMT -5
Random (and totally unfounded speculative) thought here. My guess on the P1cc development process is that they tried to think of it all and had a lot of really good ideas such as the following: Incorporate a wedge style method for locking the blade in really tight- solid engineering Create a perfect pendulum action built into the saw Make the motor powerful enough to not bog down and thereby add to accuracy as well Move the saw blade as close to the work being cut as possible to reduce wandering from blade flex The above items should allow us to do away with the jaws and guide wheel that heat up the blade preventing wood burn and prolonging blade life Make the foot fixed so we don't lose any accuracy- perfectly machined base THEN- for absolutely perfect cuts we will make a special blade that is impossible to flex & wander (w1 cunex) I am guessing that Mafell may have been a bit surprised with the results with regular jigsaw blades resulting from the cumulative efforts of the above items and some that I can't remember right now but had the w1 blade already anyway?? And just as a side note I think this might be my weirdest post so far
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Mar 20, 2014 1:18:10 GMT -5
Your thinking is spot on. They new the jigsaw was almost perfect with a normal blade, but their was certain situations it wasn't. So they got together with the world largest jigsaw manufacturer to develop a new blade and patent it. As far as mafell was concerned they had achieve perfection in every situation
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Post by wiz1258 on Oct 20, 2014 19:20:05 GMT -5
KSS300, P1CC are next I just got the MT55. I'm getting them because I want them. I just want the best.
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