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Post by kraftt on Feb 23, 2019 13:26:01 GMT -5
Was working out of town yesterday and stopped at a box store and saw these adjustable tables. If you live in North America (or where ever China is sending them) these seem pretty inexpensive for what you get. Didn’t measure how far down or up you could raise or lower the tops but it was quite low to plenty high. The quality seems to be all there and the hand crank to adjust height is very smooth. I used to order Hafele bases that were adjustable and make electric keyboard workstations years back and for what one of these box store tables costs you would maybe get one of the Hafele legs. The 46in wide is light enough that you wouldn’t grumble too much offloading it out of a truck, but once on site for a long job I think it would be very welcome. In a shop though it’s a “hell yes”.
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Post by arvid on Feb 23, 2019 13:46:39 GMT -5
What box store?
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Post by kraftt on Feb 23, 2019 14:56:02 GMT -5
H.D. (just didn't want to advertise for them).I'm going to see about removing the hand crank lever and instead chuck an old drill driver onto the shaft for automation.
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Post by kraftt on Feb 23, 2019 15:05:55 GMT -5
oh, it looks like it already has a hex shaft it inserts into, great.
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Post by arvid on Feb 23, 2019 15:49:59 GMT -5
Adjustability 26-42 inches. Weight capacity of 300lbs. Wish I could see these in person. My local store doesn’t have them in store.
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Post by kraftt on Feb 23, 2019 19:28:45 GMT -5
They fall on the cusp of convincing you they are heavy duty enough. I sighted the tops for level and, depending, some have ever so slight crowns, cups or bows and some are level. The wheels lock fine up but table can move a couple of inches or so because of the swivel of the wheels, you could replace them with the type that locks the wheel shaft as well. At full height they seemed to be very stable but that was without any weight. I’m not sure because I try not to buy anything with their Husky brand on it but I think as soon as they slap that logo on the table it has a long warrantee? The return policy makes it easy to try out for a few weeks. Sorry to say that handle to hex, into the shaft, does not pull out. Some mod may be required to adapt shaft to a drill driver. Thinking now to drill into the side of the leg where it must meet with some type of 90º gear and see if this isn’t also a better location to mount a drill driver.
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Feb 23, 2019 19:48:17 GMT -5
These tables are on display at several of the local Despot stores in Minnesota. I don’t think they’d hold up to really heavy/commercial use, but for a small shop they seem like they’d perform well.
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Post by kraftt on Feb 23, 2019 20:51:53 GMT -5
These are those Hafele adjustable stands I used to use. The steel must have been 1/8” wall thickness and greater for the 90ºs that join the legs to the bridge. The interesting thing about them is you’ll notice there’s no cross brace (other than the bridge underneath) and yet they do not wobble or splay if you pull or push table around. Surprisingly solid design, won't rock at all if you try shaking table (though I think I did drill & tap back of legs to install knobs to tighten and stop adjustment once a user found desired height so no one could mess with it). If the H.D.’s were redesigned without that lower cross brace it would be great to nest them, if you had one in each size, for space.
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Post by arvid on Feb 24, 2019 11:03:13 GMT -5
Might order one in to my local store for pickup. I think it might come in handy as a simple outfeed table for my panel saw. Or to stack sheets on for a panel loading saw since I can raise the height as I work down the pile of sheets and slide them onto the sliding saw carriage. I wonder how hard it is to crank up with a heavy load of melamine on top of it.
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Post by kraftt on Feb 24, 2019 13:29:22 GMT -5
... to stack sheets on for a panel loading saw since I can raise the height as I work down the pile of sheets and slide them onto the sliding saw carriage. I wonder how hard it is to crank up with a heavy load of melamine on top of it. I think that the crank handle rotates above the table top (?) but regardless with sheet stock on top there would not be enough clearance for your hand so that's why I thought attaching an old drill driver might be in order. You wouldn't mind reaching underneath if all you have to do is pull the drill trigger, probably the only way to go with heavy loads.
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Post by brown6 on May 25, 2019 1:15:44 GMT -5
What is the cost of this piano holder? And can you make this at your home?
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Post by kraftt on May 25, 2019 13:14:26 GMT -5
The Hafele stuff was/still is rather pricey. It’s been many years since I made these and I think the parts have been updated, though the basics are the same (hand crank hole is from the side now?). I mentioned them above because I was always impressed with how truly stable these bases were, meaning that adjustable tables can be done right and without a second cross brace to boot.
Is it something you could build at home? I will say that if the goal is thinness and a total rigidity along keyboard (any deflection is bad for many reasons) there will be many things to consider. Except for the base, with a couple of modifications, I did it all in CAD and had almost all of the various materials/parts CNC'ed. If you're just building it for yourself though I think you could skip the adjustable table since you will already know your preferred height (unless you’re using it in a commercial studio where guest composers etc. visit).
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