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Post by henrun on Nov 23, 2018 9:10:37 GMT -5
I've read about problems with the Senco's - put me off. I'm often working up at 2000m of altitude - I don't want a gas nailer - I'll go with the Hitachi and deal with the bulk! I don't have an OFK500 - not sure what it brings to the table, looks basic - I do have an MFk700 with all the bases - and it's a fantastic tool. Senco has less than 40 moving parts and mine has never failed over the five years I had it but when the battery gave up I had a Ryobi for some time and tried the Hitachi. I've heard reports about failure too on the Senco - guess I was one of the lucky ones.
I haven't worked my second Senco that much yet but I hope that I stay on the winning streak...
If you work at altitude the HitaKokiBo makes more sense of course...
The OFK 500 is very basic, it brings proprietary router bits to the table and it only does edge routing but the router bits drop in over the spindle and the ball bearing is on the machine spindle and not on the bit so no scarring from the bits!
The MFK700 is a lot more versatile but the OFK500 is extremely well balanced for edge routing and very nimble. The router bits do last a really long time too.
The Makita 18V is not as well balanced but the freedom of cordless compensates for that. With longer stock the OFK500 can be a nuisance despite the excellent ergonomics - cable snag is a drag...
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Post by jozsefkozma on Nov 23, 2018 11:34:54 GMT -5
I don’t have a cordless pinnailer Is the hitachi a good choice ? This would be only a choice if I jump in with multivolt mitersaw
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Post by henrun on Nov 23, 2018 13:51:15 GMT -5
Hitachi are well known for their nailers but I haven't tried the cordless pin nailer - it is not available over here. It does take slightly longer pins than the Makita.
If you get the Multivolt mitre saw in the future HiTaKokiBOchi has a few great add ons of you buy solo units so if there is anything you lack you could give them a try. I have only had one disappointment with a product in the Hitachi range, and not a total disappointment at that.
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Post by jozsefkozma on Nov 23, 2018 15:14:39 GMT -5
The small mitersaw is almost 100 %soonest it is available A cordless table saw at the same time My main thing is to loose the cord and hose I don’t mind still keeping the corded but that would be stayin in the shop and bring it out on when needed I also use a cordless compressor which is good with the Grex pin and finishnailers but hoseless would be preferred The Dewalt framing and finish nailers are good enough So I am without pin nailer The multi volt with adapter could be a real good solution Specially if I had tablesaw , mitersaw , nailers working of the same battery platform
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Post by henrun on Nov 24, 2018 13:53:21 GMT -5
If you break it down to every possible scenario the combination of corded/cordless will always be the best. It is as simple as that. It is truly a win-win situation to have both options - in the same machine - regardless of being in a small shop or on site with/without electricity. I am kind of excited about this becoming a reality at last. I do hope other manufacturers will follow suit too - the more options the better, for us.
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Post by aas on Nov 24, 2018 14:29:04 GMT -5
Other manufacturers will be forced to follow suite - I really hope for some backward compatibility, but I won't hold my breath. It can't be that difficult to build a transformer to replace the output of a battery.
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Post by henrun on Nov 27, 2018 15:01:27 GMT -5
One reason could be that it would take a toll on battery sales. Shallow as that seems.
I think being innovative is worth more though I can understand the lure of attracting customers into an expansive range of battery operated machines.
It's not like I would run a hammer drill with the transformer attached (though apparently you can in the HiKokitaBo* case).
It wasn't too long ago you could almost only get machines with two batteries and a charger and not solo units. Some people had eight or ten batteries and four to five chargers...
* ...still can't get over the Metabo HPT name. Just saw a clip with the 10" HiKoki machine being described as "the Metabo" and no mentioning of the HPT - cringe cringe.
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Post by huntsgemein on Nov 28, 2018 6:05:33 GMT -5
Like I said... it's gonna come back to bite 'em in the arse. They could've chosen just about ANY possible new name in the universe. So why the fuck use somebody elses? What happens when just one of the 2 separate tool companies inevitably gets sold off to another 3rd party?
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