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Post by jimbouk on Nov 16, 2018 14:57:31 GMT -5
Anyone running one of these? I may not able to wait for the Hikoki 71/2 inch cordless.
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Post by aas on Nov 16, 2018 16:24:42 GMT -5
Yep, I've got one... and a DLS600Z too.
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Post by jimbouk on Nov 16, 2018 17:12:55 GMT -5
Yep, I've got one... and a DLS600Z too. Honest opinions on those would be great, power, runtime and most importantly accuracy?
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Post by aas on Nov 17, 2018 3:16:54 GMT -5
DLS110Z - amazing saw, heavy!.. runs on 10 year old 3,0ah batts OK, but better on new 5,0ah's - you'll need 4 batts and a double charger if doing a lot of work. Plenty of adjustment to dial in the accuracy - I'm just in the middle of the busy period before the ski season starts so I haven't had the time to set it up, I have just set it to a square and locked it off. Very impressive for a SCSM - even more so the fact it is battery. There is a model number floating about DLS112Z that I have not yet seen for sale that will add a laser... the DLS110Z has the covers in the right place, don't know if it will be possible to retro fit.
DLS600Z - very accurate, super light, long run time - perfect for trim, etc. They also do an alu blade for cutting LED profiles etc. Laser needs dialing in, there is an LED light on an arm.
Very happy with both saws.
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Post by jimbouk on Nov 18, 2018 6:34:10 GMT -5
I have been looking into the Makita cordless line and it has come a long way since I last considered it. The tracksaw and the dls110z being the highlights.
I have just put most of my festool kit up for sale and am considering my options for replacements.
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Post by aas on Nov 18, 2018 7:04:42 GMT -5
I'm buying back into Makita after selling all my old Makita kit in 2014 (switching to Festool then selling most my Festool in 2015 after discovering Mafell!). Drills and impact are Metabo as they are better than the equivalent Makita in my opinion, cordless tracksaw is Mafell, but I would like the Makita too for breaking down sheets.
Even though they are older models, I've recently added to my Makita 18v collection : planer, sander, biscuit joiner, the two mitre saws mentioned above, drywall saw (which is excellent!), b/l drywall gun, 35cm chainsaw, - in addition to the SDS and other base 18v tools I already have.
I have most of the 10,8v range - mind blowing how many tools fit in one sys 4 size toolbox.
Makita cheesed me off with their first useless attempt at 10,8v tools with the fat round batteries - the CXT range has gone back to the good dependable Makita quality.
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Post by aas on Nov 18, 2018 12:47:23 GMT -5
Some good deals on the 2x18v plunge saw at the moment. They have brought out the new DSP601Z with bluetooth vac activation - the old model DSP600Z is going for a song - just picked one up for 237€ plus shipping of 8€.
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Post by jimbouk on Nov 18, 2018 13:26:43 GMT -5
That is a steal! There doesn't seem to be much difference in price between the models here and the Bluetooth function would be handy. I think there is a separate modal for that too?
Do you have the biscuit joiner as well? Or the cordless trim router?
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Post by aas on Nov 18, 2018 18:54:07 GMT -5
I have both the cordless biscuit jointer and cordless trim router
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Post by henrun on Nov 20, 2018 11:49:55 GMT -5
Some good deals on the 2x18v plunge saw at the moment. They have brought out the new DSP601Z with bluetooth vac activation - the old model DSP600Z is going for a song - just picked one up for 237€ plus shipping of 8€. Say what??!
That is cheap. Could do without the BT vac option but having the other one slashed down in price is super nice - I would consider one permanently in the shop for that price!
A colleague has the biscuit jointer and I have the cordless trim router. It is a beauty.
I am not expanding my Makita 18V line up but my keepers are:
Stapler + Pin Nailer in a shared Systainer.
Trim Router DLS600Z
I could replace the stapler and nailer with Hitachi (or Hi.../MHPT) for convenience but they are not available over here. Neither are used heavily but I appreciate the stapler since it has never jammed in thousands of staples in fabric/wood and the pin nailer is sometimes very handy on site for smaller trim and replacing it with "similar" nailer would be far too expensive.
The trim router and the mini mitre are solid keepers for sure.
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Post by jimbouk on Nov 20, 2018 14:47:11 GMT -5
Great to hear that Henrun 👍 Anyone know if makita have a remote vac switch? Or if one is available?
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Post by aas on Nov 22, 2018 1:12:10 GMT -5
The 23ga pin nailer is great, I have the 10,8v version. For 18 or 16ga, I was thinking about the 18v Hitachi - I already have the framing nailer and it is amazing.
I agree the trim router is a beauty. I was worried about the balance having the battery on top, but I really don't notice it.
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Post by henrun on Nov 22, 2018 12:39:03 GMT -5
The 23ga pin nailer is great, I have the 10,8v version. For 18 or 16ga, I was thinking about the 18v Hitachi - I already have the framing nailer and it is amazing. I agree the trim router is a beauty. I was worried about the balance having the battery on top, but I really don't notice it. The 18ga Hitachi nailer is the best on the market - I think - after trying one out. But that "best" comes at a price: it is quite heavy and it requires a big-ish Systainer to fit it so I actually returned mine. If they had only shrunk it down a cm on each end (height/length) it would slip into a Systainer sideways and could easily fit a SYS II. Now I think a SYS IV is required.
My Senco Fusion F18 fits in a SYS I with battery and charger... And is a lot lighter. I gave it some more room and padding and it ended up in a SYS II with nails and bits and pieces too. So, Senco was the best compromise for weight, performance and I got my new one at a fire sale though it was still more than the Hitachi.
For performance the Hitachi was great and for performance alone or bought as a solo unit I can really recommend it but for over head work and a lot of trim nailing I would tire quickly.
I have used the Ryobi (great budget nailer), the Senco Fusion (very good and no problems with my unit) and the Hitachi (briefly). I have tried a few 18ga nailers over the years but the only three I have been more or less happy with are the three mentioned above. For ergonomics I think the Ryobi is the best (!) but it is a bit slower than the other two though performance is good enough.
The Makita router is pretty well balance despite being top heavy. The Festool OFK 500 is still the best for me but that cord is a mood killer at times... ...it is very nice to be able to bring the Makita 18V around the workshop and do edge routing and not worry about cable snag or length. One of my best buys the last couple of years for sure...
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Post by aas on Nov 22, 2018 14:10:34 GMT -5
I've read about problems with the Senco's - put me off. I'm often working up at 2000m of altitude - I don't want a gas nailer - I'll go with the Hitachi and deal with the bulk!
I don't have an OFK500 - not sure what it brings to the table, looks basic - I do have an MFk700 with all the bases - and it's a fantastic tool.
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Post by jimbouk on Nov 22, 2018 17:24:02 GMT -5
There's a guy here in the UK who makes a sweet off set base for the Makita. I'm contacting him about making a laminate trimming attachment similar to the festool item too. Let me know if you would like details.
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