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Post by aas on Oct 21, 2018 2:13:38 GMT -5
Well, I had to add it to my collection at some point!.. can anyone confirm that the KSS model has a different base that is grooved to accept the KSS rail?..
If so, I will get the KSS model with it's red coffin!
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Post by bicycleclip on Oct 21, 2018 9:23:15 GMT -5
Well, I had to add it to my collection at some point!.. can anyone confirm that the KSS model has a different base that is grooved to accept the KSS rail?..
If so, I will get the KSS model with it's red coffin!
No, it’s the same model for either package, the base is the same. If you buy the systainer version, the KSS rail is available as an optional accessory. service.mafell.com/index.php?IdTreeGroup=12964&IdProduct=29272I bought the red coffin package because the expanding cutter is included, but pretty soon bought a systainer to store it in, and the red coffin is in my attic. The MF26 works with my KSS400 rail as well by the way. As far as I can tell they’re the same rail with a different label. The 770 rail works for both. By the way, the MF26 is brilliant. Not being able to use a dado stack (I’m in the UK And have an Erika) and hating routers, the MF26 is just so easy to use. It’s one of those tools that I’ve fallen in love with. I now design grooves and rabbets without hesitation in my cabinets. I generally only use the KSS rail for timber frame work. For cabinets I use a standard Mafell rail with a cochrane square. |
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Post by aas on Oct 21, 2018 13:34:48 GMT -5
OK, I think I mis-read a comment on another post... thanks
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Post by aas on Oct 22, 2018 6:17:45 GMT -5
I'll order the same setup, with the adjustable cutter and KSS rail.
I've recently ordered the Cochrane square, hoping it lives up to expectations.
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Post by bicycleclip on Oct 23, 2018 15:20:30 GMT -5
I'll order the same setup, with the adjustable cutter and KSS rail. I've recently ordered the Cochrane square, hoping it lives up to expectations. That setup made the most sense to me in practical terms. I’ve no use for the other cutters although sometimes I see them going cheaply on German ebay and I wonder if I could incorporate them into a design. My only bugbear is that the adjustable cutter doesn’t go down to a half-inch, which would be useful for some sheet material. I keep wondering whether Mafell will add some cutters. The Cochrane square is brilliant. The eccentric nuts fixing the square to the rail take a little getting used to, but the square is basically foolproof and totally reliable. I keep one permanently fixed to a short MF rail. |
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Post by aas on Oct 24, 2018 2:42:58 GMT -5
I'm sure I'll add the other cutters at some point, but for current needs, it's the adjustable cutter. Does anyone make fixed width cutters than can be used on the MF26 ?
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Post by bicycleclip on Oct 24, 2018 12:35:13 GMT -5
I'm sure I'll add the other cutters at some point, but for current needs, it's the adjustable cutter. Does anyone make fixed width cutters than can be used on the MF26 ? Nope. And it’s a pain. The bore size on the MF6 is 20mm. The standard bore size for moulding cutters is 30mm. That’s why if you want to be able to use various 3rd party cutters you should look at the NFU32. It takes 30mm bore. The problem with that model is that it doesn’t plunge, and it doesn’t run on MF rails, only an old rail design that costs a fortune, like £300 per rail. I spoke with some members of this forum about crowdsourcing some custom made 12mm wide 20mm cutters from Lietz, but didn’t reach enouh of a critical mass. An alternative would be to source a top hat bushing/reducer that would allow a 30mm bore cutter run on 20mm bore. One day I’ll ask a local engineering firm if they can produce something. |
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Post by holmz on Oct 25, 2018 7:49:31 GMT -5
I have a lathe...
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Post by bicycleclip on Oct 25, 2018 11:57:54 GMT -5
Then you’re just the man! Shall I send my MF26 to you in Australia so that you can fashion a top-hat type reducer? I’ll stuff a roll of cash in the hose outlet to cover the reverse postage.. |
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Post by aas on Oct 25, 2018 15:27:57 GMT -5
The NFU32 doesn't interest me.
Would it be possible to stack 120mm blades with the MF26 to cut 3mm grooves for example?
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Post by holmz on Oct 26, 2018 7:02:43 GMT -5
Then you’re just the man! Shall I send my MF26 to you in Australia so that you can fashion a top-hat type reducer? I’ll stuff a roll of cash in the hose outlet to cover the reverse postage.. No... (I would just keep it) i think it is better to just make a drawing...and then msg it. ideally we find some one who does .DFX files and we do a three exchange. just send the drawinging and then maybe I send you an aluminium or nylon part to try. (steel is better, but we need to agree on a steel... 4130?) |
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Post by bicycleclip on Oct 27, 2018 4:34:05 GMT -5
Then you’re just the man! Shall I send my MF26 to you in Australia so that you can fashion a top-hat type reducer? I’ll stuff a roll of cash in the hose outlet to cover the reverse postage.. No... (I would just keep it) i think it is better to just make a drawing...and then msg it. ideally we find some one who does .DFX files and we do a three exchange. just send the drawinging and then maybe I send you an aluminium or nylon part to try. (steel is better, but we need to agree on a steel... 4130?) Der okay if you’re sure you don’t want me to send it  Funilly enough I was talking about this with the owner of Wealden Tool (they make cutters and router bits in UK) and while he said they couldn’t interrupt their fabrication for a small run, he drew me a sketch of what I could ask a small firm to make - I’ll dig it out and attach it when I’m next on my PC |
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Post by bicycleclip on Oct 27, 2018 4:43:33 GMT -5
The NFU32 doesn't interest me. Would it be possible to stack 120mm blades with the MF26 to cut 3mm grooves for example? Theoretically it’s possible, it’s been discussed on here before since the 3 blade multicutter is basically standard cutters that are shimmed. I’ve not tried it because I don’t actually have a second or third 120mm blade. I suppose I should buy them, but then again I’d onky be interested in a 12mm width of cut. Then there’s the issue that I use it for housed joints. With the adjustable cutter I can dial it in to the board I’m using (typically B/BB Birch ply) to within a fraction of a mm. This is not going to be possible with a static 12mm head. To summarise, static widths don’t really meet my needs, but I suppose it would work for loose joins like grooves for drawer bottoms, but for that I might use a router, or a table saw with the Bridgecity kerfmaker |
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Post by aas on Oct 27, 2018 14:58:31 GMT -5
I was thinking for 3mm grooves for basic back panels - don't want to be sticking a dozen blades in there!
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Post by holmz on Oct 27, 2018 18:17:36 GMT -5
The NFU32 doesn't interest me. Would it be possible to stack 120mm blades with the MF26 to cut 3mm grooves for example? Theoretically it’s possible, it’s been discussed on here before since the 3 blade multicutter is basically standard cutters that are shimmed. I’ve not tried it because I don’t actually have a second or third 120mm blade. I suppose I should buy them, but then again I’d onky be interested in a 12mm width of cut. Then there’s the issue that I use it for housed joints. With the adjustable cutter I can dial it in to the board I’m using (typically B/BB Birch ply) to within a fraction of a mm. This is not going to be possible with a static 12mm head. To summarise, static widths don’t really meet my needs, but I suppose it would work for loose joins like grooves for drawer bottoms, but for that I might use a router, or a table saw with the Bridgecity kerfmaker if you were to send it, I would likely put it to good use... I assume it would look like the bottom spool that holds the thread in a sewing machine (cut in half)... so like a couple of tophat shapes to go on each side. |
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