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Post by arvid on Nov 20, 2018 16:55:05 GMT -5
Had a play with the 10 inch at Lowe’s today. They did not have out of the box but they had the hitachi corded version on display which seems identical minus the 36v capability. After playing with it I didn’t care for the controls. And the detents were not stable enough without doing the extra locking feature to keep it stable. Went back to Lowe’s later in the day and the two boxed metabos were sold out quick. I am not surprised. There is a small 7 1/2 beater Hitachi at the workshop which is a Chinese made machine and though it cuts true it is a no frills machine for sure and does not ooze quality. Hitachi used to make a Japanese made 10" which was very good and when I asked about that saw at the dealership I was shown the "current" 10" and I agree with your assessment.
From what I have heard the battery version is slightly updated and could be better built but I believe it when I see it.
They did have a 12" Japanese made Hitachi in store and wanted me to try that one and it was really nicely built but way too heavy for me.
My preferred size is around 7-8" for mitre saws, don't need larger than that but if the 10" had been very nice in handling and with the corded/cordless I would have considered it. Now it is a waiting game for that promising 7 1/2 HiKoki/Metabo HPT.
The new hitachi 10 inch I played with was $269.00 so for that money you get what you pay for. Made in China. If the metabo is the same saw for 619.00 that’s a huge difference in price for the same saw with the only difference being the option of being run cordless or corded. |
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Post by jozsefkozma on Nov 20, 2018 17:17:50 GMT -5
It is a little disappointing to see that I will have to go
to one more style of batteries
The hitachi 7 1/2 could be really what I was craving for
The old Hitachi 8 1/2 from the early ninetys was
way ahead of everybody . Quality , durability,
Accuracy , small footprint ,
I wish it would be on the metabo batteries
I almost picked up a flexvolt table saw but I will
check the new hitachi out
Still wish for a 36V kss 60 or 36V HKC
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Post by arvid on Nov 20, 2018 19:17:06 GMT -5
It is a little disappointing to see that I will have to go to one more style of batteries The hitachi 7 1/2 could be really what I was craving for The old Hitachi 8 1/2 from the early ninetys was way ahead of everybody . Quality , durability, Accuracy , small footprint , I wish it would be on the metabo batteries I almost picked up a flexvolt table saw but I will check the new hitachi out Still wish for a 36V kss 60 or 36V HKC That old hitachi was way way ahead of its time. I did so much work with that little saw it isn’t even funny. I ended up giving it away and regretted it ever since. I have a 36v kss60 saw I might part with if interested. You can get the hitachi 36v little guy on eBay now shipped from japan. |
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Post by jimbouk on Nov 21, 2018 15:00:25 GMT -5
It is a little disappointing to see that I will have to go to one more style of batteries The hitachi 7 1/2 could be really what I was craving for The old Hitachi 8 1/2 from the early ninetys was way ahead of everybody . Quality , durability, Accuracy , small footprint , I wish it would be on the metabo batteries I almost picked up a flexvolt table saw but I will check the new hitachi out Still wish for a 36V kss 60 or 36V HKC That old hitachi was way way ahead of its time. I did so much work with that little saw it isn’t even funny. I ended up giving it away and regretted it ever since. I have a 36v kss60 saw I might part with if interested. You can get the hitachi 36v little guy on eBay now shipped from japan. Have you got a link for that? |
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Post by kraftt on Nov 21, 2018 23:00:21 GMT -5
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LINK (rakuten 59,800 yen / $530 usd if you can get them to ship ?)
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Post by henrun on Nov 22, 2018 12:26:51 GMT -5
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LINK (rakuten 59,800 yen / $530 usd if you can get them to ship ?) Yes, this is the one I would like to source up if they hadn't come out with the 7 1/2 inch with adapter.
I was trying to find the linked model but could not source one up to be shipped at the time. I almost got one from the UK but it was out of stock when I had decided... I did not try to order one from Japan though. It ticks the right boxes for me for sure. It would honestly replace the little Makita DLS600Z for me with the (albeit limited) slide capability. And it has the "right" platform for me since I can use those batteries on my other Hitachi machines.
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Post by thehandyman on Nov 23, 2018 0:14:39 GMT -5
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LINK (rakuten 59,800 yen / $530 usd if you can get them to ship ?) That is not the same little MultiVolt 7 1/4" saw I used at the MultiVolt release event. Still looks nice. |
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Post by henrun on Nov 23, 2018 9:01:55 GMT -5
Yes, I know, that is a smaller 165mm mitre saw - same blade size as the lil' Makita but with slider. I think it is built in Japan too so should be decent quality. The new one will suit me better though. Just the right size and probably well built too.
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Post by jozsefkozma on Nov 23, 2018 11:26:49 GMT -5
The multivolt With adapter and the size would
be selligpoint to me
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Post by ohan on Nov 23, 2018 20:09:29 GMT -5
Would Japanese market MultiVolt tools be usable in the US with a (US spec) corded adapter? A source in Japan told me you would have to use a transformer, since the tool and its fancy circuitry is designed to run on 100VAC. Anyone know if this is true?
Similarly, if a MultiVolt tool was imported for use in UK at 230V, could you use it (with a US MV adapter) here?
Wouldn't it make more sense for the tool to be made for multiple voltages and have the differences in Voltage (i.e. Japan, vs. US vs. UK, etc.) be made up in the adapters themselves?
I read on here the Japanese spec 6-1/2" MV saw was used at the demo event in the US.. if they also showed it running corded off an adapter, does anyone remember if it was also running through a transformer?
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Post by henrun on Nov 24, 2018 14:04:55 GMT -5
I think they did demo the DRA3607 190mm blade or 7 1/2" unit that is coming. The older model is the DRA3606 which is 165mm or 6 1/2". I might be mistaken though. But the older model has a shorter slider range and from photos I've seen looks even smaller.
I think they will have different transformers/adapters for different markets.
Since the machines all operate on the same battery platform (currenty with different chargers for different markets) I can't see any why the machines would differ between the markets.
It is the only way that makes sense to me - and it is also the most elegant solution. If I buy it here I get the right wall plug and specs and the same machine as the other markets unless there is some other technical aspect I am not understanding.
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Post by ohan on Nov 24, 2018 15:35:26 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I thought too, but the seller I contacted in Japan seemed pretty sure I would need a transformer as well because "the tool is meant for 100V". I've seen some MV tools for sale in the UK that are clearly marked "230V" on the box - but since they're selling them without batteries or chargers that seems like a moot point, no?
Hitachi [sic] makes a big point on their website how tools intended for other markets are not meant for the US and won't be covered by warranty claims should something go wrong (like you frying a 100V tool on 120V).
Maybe all of these warnings are meant for the corded tools and not for MultiVolt? Dunno.
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Post by thehandyman on Nov 25, 2018 0:21:54 GMT -5
This is the model that was at the show. C 3607DRA It was stated to us that it will be available late 2019.  |
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Post by henrun on Nov 25, 2018 15:39:15 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I thought too, but the seller I contacted in Japan seemed pretty sure I would need a transformer as well because "the tool is meant for 100V". I've seen some MV tools for sale in the UK that are clearly marked "230V" on the box - but since they're selling them without batteries or chargers that seems like a moot point, no? Hitachi [sic] makes a big point on their website how tools intended for other markets are not meant for the US and won't be covered by warranty claims should something go wrong (like you frying a 100V tool on 120V). Maybe all of these warnings are meant for the corded tools and not for MultiVolt? Dunno. MultiVolt tools have the same motor for all markets and is not in itself voltage dependent. The transformer would have to be tailored for each market though, voltage wise. |
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Post by henrun on Nov 25, 2018 15:40:48 GMT -5
This is the model that was at the show. C 3607DRA It was stated to us that it will be available late 2019.
Yep, that's the new one alright!
Manufacturing date on that specimen 2018-6 
Probably might hit the shelves earlier in Europe if we are lucky.
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