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Post by GhostFist on Mar 1, 2013 8:38:33 GMT -5
Hi and welcome! First off I'll introduce my self then you can say hello if you like. My proper name is Matt. I'm a film carpenter building sets for television and full feature movies. Weird i know but it's a diverse skill set, a constant challenge and I get to build strange stuff and sometimes watch it blow up (on purpose). I guess you could say I have a thing for high end tools but in reality I just want the most efficient tools I can afford. My job is about speed and accuracy and my tool set must remain compact and portable. So in researching equipment that would fit my needs I stumbled across Mafell and scoured the interwebs to find out more about these products. Theres not much out there to be honest, so I decided to start up this forum to allow users of Mafell tools and those curious to compile our collective minds so we can get the most out of our gear and purchase what's right for us. These things aint cheap, but from what I've purchased so far, they're certainly worth it.
Please be patient with us as we're brand new forum babies and are still growing. The forum may change it's look and ad more features as we get used to using this thing! As a side note, I have no direct ties to Mafell, theres no money involved here. Dealers are free to jump in and offer advice and post anywhere they like but I ask that they let the Administrators of this forum know that they are dealers so we can put a cute little "dealer" sub header to your profile just to eliminate bias. Other than that post what you like or hate or want from Mafell powertools and lets get building! Cheers! Matt
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Post by jalvis on Mar 16, 2013 11:34:00 GMT -5
Welcome to all things Mafell!
My first name is Jordan and I'm fortunate enough to make my passion a living lifestyle. As a professional woodworker and Remodel business owner I live with tools and demand performance. Theres a difference in ones approach when Time is Money or even more important Less time working means More time with the People you love. To accomplish the desired result is more than just having the best tool for the job its about knowledge and application. Thats where this Forum is most valuable. So don't be shy and share your experience and questions.
Like Matt I'm not a dealer and receive nothing for this forum from Mafell. We pay full price just like everyone else! This is about creating a community of information to better ones skills and understanding. Even if that means Mafell isn't the best option for the application. Nothings perfect so lets talk about the Pros as well as the Cons.
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Post by steve on Mar 23, 2013 14:20:23 GMT -5
Hey guys, my name is Steve and I'm a remodeling contractor in Minnesota. Kitchen and bath, some cabinets, some decks. I don't have a track saw and was looking at Festool, the new to us TS55REQ and came across Mafell while doing the research. Did more reading and said "great", I'm done, lets go with the MT55cc. Then I started seeing reviews on the KSS 300.... I guess I can see myself with both saws like Matt, but am wondering which saw might be the best "first saw" of the pair to get? Matt, since you have both I'm hoping you're the best guy to answer that question  Timberwolf Tools is the USA delear, the KSS300 is $925.00 here and the MT55 is $771.00, but you need to purchase the rails with the 55. I guess I'm a little surprised in that the KSS300 appears a bit more "toy" like and the MT55 seems more industrial, so I was thinking that the KSS300 would be at a lower price point. But hey, I haven't seen either saw in person so hopefully you guys can help me with that perception and suggestions on first purchase. Thanks! Steve
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Post by GhostFist on Mar 23, 2013 15:29:55 GMT -5
Welcome aboard member number 3!!! I guess it depends what you intend to do with your saws more. The 300 is the ultimate little ultra portable all rounder. I freaking love it to death!! it's compatible with the f rails only for straight cuts, no beveling on the f tracks and cuts remarkably clean and smooth for a saw of its size. I'm always impressed with the power of this little guy. You're not going to get the same depth of cut or incredible power of the MT55 however, the MT also has the scoring function and just a bazillion little amazing features on it. I also prefer it for plunge cuts,though the kss does plunge it's a very different action to that of the festool or MT55. To shorten this up a little, if you want a track saw as a tool for both ripping and cross cutting sheet goods and fine quality cabinets I'd get the MT first. that being said both saws can work miracles for decks, and I've heard of guys who build complete kitchens with the kss. I don't know I'm torn haha.... to settle I'm gonna say mt55 first 300 second.....even though i did the opposite. Hope that helps???
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Post by steve on Mar 23, 2013 15:46:35 GMT -5
Thanks Matt, it does help, although it does tell me that it is a close decision between the two  I'm reading that the 300 is the quick and easy, almost fun, efficient with quality results. MT55 more features, more capabilities, a little more snort. I'm going to have to go with you on this since you have both, you are the expert!! Is the angle cut attachment for the MT55 similar to the one on the KSS300, that looked pretty sweet in the video. Are both of these saws fairly new in their respective life cycle? (or are there significant upgrades due out in the near future that would have me kicking myself and wishing I would have waited...) Thanks, Steve
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Post by skinee on Mar 23, 2013 16:03:51 GMT -5
hi,my name is Adrian,i'm from the U.K.,its great to have a dedicated mafell forum, hello and thanks for setting this up Matt,hello also to Jordan and Steve,i hope we can grow our membership,looking forward to getting to know you guys,adrian
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Post by GhostFist on Mar 23, 2013 22:17:11 GMT -5
There's often Mafell attention given on the FOG, which I do respect and understand there concerns with linking to this site as FOG is now run by festool itself. I nearly pull my hair out everytime I see a post about Mafell as english language knowledge of these tools is desperately needed. Everyone's participation is what will make this board be useful, so any and all experiences, questions , complaints or compliments are welcome. Adrian, participation of members like yourself is almost vital. Mafell really is few and far between this far over so really we're starving for impressions here. How about that damn jigsaw already?  I have a trion, and to be honest I'm perfectly happy with it, but everytime I see mafells offering I start to itch.
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Post by jalvis on Mar 24, 2013 14:53:13 GMT -5
Welcome Steve and Adrian!
Were counting on you Adrian since the UK has more Dealers!
Steve, you are going to be happy with either saw. I'm really happy with my MT 55 but being in the same business as you the KSS300 has been haunting me. For nearly all install use the KSS300 would be perfect since it has the flexible rail and its in ONE systainer. Also the KSS300 is a real deal since it comes with everything. With the MT55, several rails, connector, blades, clamps.....your way over a grand...oh...and shipping. Although you can use the MT55 on Festool rails! So you have options.....options are good.
Glad to have you both Join!
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Apr 30, 2013 16:29:17 GMT -5
Hi I'm Aaron from the uk I have built up a little collection of mafell tools I started by getting the kss400, 2 f16 rails, the angle attachment for the rails. I think its an absolutely brilliant tool on 400 cross cut track the setting are spot on. If cutting a load of studs the same length I will just make a pile just under 400mm, which enables me to cut (5/3x2 or 4/4x2) saving putting each piece on a chopsaw and cutting individual length. On some jobs we get attic trusses that need some cut out for dormers to be fitted instead of having to mark the plum cut for the dormer with a leval then cut with the handsaw. As long as you know the pitch of the roof just set the angle and cut job done. All u have to do is make sure piece you are cutting are not going to fall a couple of 4x2 fixed along is suffeciant to do the job. When doing the sarking on the roof just pile the boards on the scaffold. Then a couple of joiners just go on the roof and shout sizes to cut saves so much time they can just keep nailing with the gun with no stopping to cut with the hand saw. The thing the kss400 is most handy at is doing the compound angle for the valley boards. When I first got the rails I had just 2 1600 rails and the angle attachment which works fine but a bit too big of just doing a 600 cross cut on chipboard flooring. So I went and bought a 1100 track which was a bit better but not as good as using the 400 cross track so I ordered the 770 cross cut track which the saw attaches to huge advantage just mark mark a length , pick up saw with track attached and cut no having to mark a line that gets covered in saw dust you can't see for saw dust no measuring 2 sizes no picking a rail up then the saw. All done in 2 steps measure and cut. For cutting the Osb for the roof just use the 1100 track attached to the angle attachment then when cutting the valley cuts use the 1600 track attached to the angle attachment a bit like an oversize beval a brilliant tool for general joinery work it can do finishings but is slightly to big the kss300 is the one to go for or cutting melamine sheets the Mt55. At times it could do with a more powerful motor for ripping it does do , you just need a decent blade that's sharp I have a ksp85 saw for doing the heavier work like roofs you can gang cut the birds mouth cuts just put all the rafters crown down mark the birds mouth out on the first and last then fix a straight piece of timber parrallel to the birds mouth. Then using the parralel guide to set the distance angle and depth of cut doing the plum cut then change the angle for the seat cut adjust the depth of cut and adjust the parralell guide saw the saw is in the right place and cut birds mouth cuts done saves having mark everyone out. Then using the kss400 to cut the plum cuts to the ridge or use the ksp85 for cutting the compound cuts to the hip or valley. The new kss80 saw looks really good for roof work. I have the p1cc jigsaw which is amazing jigsaws are not meant to be that good. I have the DD40p with the template guide haven't used much, but got instead of the dommino as I felt dowels would be easier to get without having to be locked one company also you get a dowel called a knapp which self tightens in the hole. Then last of all I just purchased an Erika 70 extremely accurate plenty of power is to expand if you set the fence to rip a 100mm you get 100mm no need to check the size none of the normal measure 100 mm tighten the fence and it moves 5 or 6mm then have to move again also if you tilt the blade to any angle the short point or long point dependant on what side you place the fence the size will correspond to what you have set. The Unervisal fence is accurate but the mfa fence you get with the 85 fence is better as the point is a constant distance from the blade and also the wheel kit would be handy just to turn the saw. You don't get the saw dust being spat in your face. It is expensive but you have the accuracy of workshop panel saw which is totally portable
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Post by GhostFist on Apr 30, 2013 17:30:50 GMT -5
Dude! Welcome aboard! Still waiting on my DD40 but as I've stated, I got a kss 300 and an mt55. Heavy eyes on the new kss80, an Erika and a p1cc. I still have my eyes on a Domino but we'll see if the DD40 is enough
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Post by GhostFist on Apr 30, 2013 17:31:30 GMT -5
Oh and snap us some pics if you can, tough to get info here so user experience is always best!
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 1, 2013 7:21:38 GMT -5
Will post some pics when get time. The stuff is expensive but is built to last. The kss saws will do all the things a chopsaw will and a table saw apart from the smaller stuff. The kss saws there is no point in comparing cost with a normal circular saw, its basicly think what will a good table saw and chopsaw will cost together is it as portable as the kss saws
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Post by GhostFist on May 1, 2013 20:49:55 GMT -5
Agree 100% such a simple concept and that's what makes it so great. Solid built saw and track system. My favorite tool!
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Post by jalvis on May 4, 2013 9:57:20 GMT -5
Welcome! Thank you for your input Wrightwoodwork. You appear to have a good system for your work. As GhostFist suggested upload some application photos. I for one would like to see some of those functions in use! I certainly could have used a KSS this last week. Just built new wings for my Miter saw but the KSS and VAC would have made set up and take down faster. Plus I could have cut siding off the stack! That saw is looking better and better.
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Post by GhostFist on May 4, 2013 10:22:45 GMT -5
I'm not joking, get one. you'll start to bring your miter saw less
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