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Post by aas on Jan 31, 2017 2:33:21 GMT -5
Not much info on using the KSS40 n the F rails, so I thought I'd share my experience.
I needed to plunge cut into some inexpensive ply (10mm & 15mm). I had the MT55 setup with the vac, but thought for the hell of it, I'd try the KSS40 out.
So I dropped the plunge down so it was cutting 1mm, ran the length of the cut, then plunged to the thickness of the ply plus about 5mm and made the cut.
First I must say - cheap ply but beautiful cut, no splintering or tearing. Without the plunge depth indicators of the MT55, it is a little more tricky to plunge down where required, but nothgin an eperienced too user will have problems with. Just need to be careful of the riving knife, make sure the saw advances into the cut so the riving knife can drop down into the cut.
The alignment of the KSS40 on the rails is perfectly matched to the MT55, it runs exactly on the splinter strip without a gap or cutting any extra off.
Not sure I'd use it for critical cuts in finish work - but I have the MT55 for doing that! - but certainly another string in the bow of the excellent KSS40
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Post by holmz on Jan 31, 2017 6:02:16 GMT -5
Did you climb cut for the 1-mm going backwards? or normal?
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Post by aas on Jan 31, 2017 7:34:30 GMT -5
A bit of both, I plunged, 'reversed' to the first mark, then finished off to the front mark. No difference in the two parts of the cut. Nice sharp blade and just nicking the surface like that, be hard to have problems.
I guess i could have put the plunge stops on the rail, but I don't really like them, find them a bit fiddly. (... there, one thing I prefer on the Festool rail!)
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 31, 2017 10:15:50 GMT -5
Cool post - do you have any slop in the plate on the rail? I know we have discussed this before on the forum, but that is where I think that the KSS loses a little in accuracy - again, it is negligible but being able to lock the other pluge-style saws to the gibs in the rail is what helps.
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Post by jimbouk on Jan 31, 2017 12:41:58 GMT -5
I have found very little slop on the flexi rail that comes with the 40. Plunge is easy as the saw is so light and the levers are nicely placed like on the 60.
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Post by aas on Jan 31, 2017 13:18:42 GMT -5
To be honest, I've read the comments about slop, but haven't found it to be a problem - I'll have to have a look again.
In any case I use the MT55 for critical cuts.
Off topic - I've also got the Bosch router adapter for 32mm system which others have mentioned has some slop. I had a good look when I got it and there is no slop at all with mine - maybe luck of the draw.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 31, 2017 18:13:13 GMT -5
Awesome...we need more videos of this little saw in action. There is not much out there...I have my big KSS80 and it is a nice saw, but a smaller, more nimble 40 would be a nice compliment to the bigger beast.
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Post by aas on Feb 1, 2017 7:43:42 GMT -5
So I've had a good look at the KSS40 on the F rails - it would be mean to say there is slop... less than 0,1mm of movement. With the position of the handle offset from the rib on the rail, there is enough torsional pressure when pushing the saw down the rail that it doesn't move. I'd even say it would stick if machined any closer.
As for the Bosch router adapter, a nice solid fit on the rail - I can 'almost' pick up the 800mm rail using the adapter alone - it's that snug!
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Post by surfjungle on Oct 9, 2021 15:54:16 GMT -5
aas , I've spent the past 1/2 hour+ looking for a post on whether or not the KSS 40 supports Mafell F rails. Thank you for this. I am bamboozled as to why Mafell neither confirm nor deny running this saw on those rails. It's flippin' daft. For clarity, if I bought a KSS 40 18M bl and various sized Mafell F rails, from your experimentation, you believe that combination would work just fine? I ask as I wanted to get a (non-Festool) multi-functional table and use a Mafell F rail with some bench dogs to create a cutting table. I'm unsure if it is worth getting a KSS 50 18M bl as it seems to lack some features / convenience of the KSS 40 18M bl but I might ask about that in a separate thread if I can't find some useful comparisons especially if people on the forum have experience with both.
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Oct 9, 2021 19:07:15 GMT -5
The kss40 works well with the F rails as long as the cut is plumb (90*). If you cut bevels the saw will cut the splinter guard closer to the track.
John
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Post by aas on Oct 10, 2021 1:05:49 GMT -5
if I bought a KSS 40 18M bl and various sized Mafell F rails, from your experimentation, you believe that combination would work just fine? What do you want to be cutting / making?
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Post by surfjungle on Oct 10, 2021 8:03:48 GMT -5
if I bought a KSS 40 18M bl and various sized Mafell F rails, from your experimentation, you believe that combination would work just fine? What do you want to be cutting / making? aas Actually, I created a post in the cordless forum just now as I wanted to do this right. Thanks again for being kind and willing to help me. You can find it mafell-users-forum.freeforums.net/thread/1762/kind-advice-required-track-circular
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Post by Len on Jan 29, 2023 5:58:18 GMT -5
Not much info on using the KSS40 n the F rails, so I thought I'd share my experience. I needed to plunge cut into some inexpensive ply (10mm & 15mm). I had the MT55 setup with the vac, but thought for the hell of it, I'd try the KSS40 out. So I dropped the plunge down so it was cutting 1mm, ran the length of the cut, then plunged to the thickness of the ply plus about 5mm and made the cut. First I must say - cheap ply but beautiful cut, no splintering or tearing. Without the plunge depth indicators of the MT55, it is a little more tricky to plunge down where required, but nothgin an eperienced too user will have problems with. Just need to be careful of the riving knife, make sure the saw advances into the cut so the riving knife can drop down into the cut. The alignment of the KSS40 on the rails is perfectly matched to the MT55, it runs exactly on the splinter strip without a gap or cutting any extra off. Not sure I'd use it for critical cuts in finish work - but I have the MT55 for doing that! - but certainly another string in the bow of the excellent KSS40
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