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Post by Red on Jun 7, 2015 23:33:14 GMT -5
I recently added my 2 cents to a thread in which the subject at hand was chisels. I'm not real big on recording memories via electronic devices -- I'd rather record them with with my eyes -- but this photo was passed along to me and it shows what can be done with the framing chisels I recommended...
Here is a photo of my Barr Quarton 1.5" and 2" chisels, my favorite ironwood mallet and, more importantly, what can be accomplished with them. One of my favorite things about the timber framing craft has always been how much one can accomplish with a lot of drive and some [quality] traditional hand tools.
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Post by holmz on Jun 8, 2015 18:22:52 GMT -5
I recently added my 2 cents to a thread in which the subject at hand was chisels. I'm not real big on recording memories via electronic devices -- I'd rather record them with with my eyes -- but this photo was passed along to me and it shows what can be done with the framing chisels I recommended...
Here is a photo of my Barr Quarton 1.5" and 2" chisels, my favorite ironwood mallet and, more importantly, what can be accomplished with them. One of my favorite things about the timber framing craft has always been how much one can accomplish with a lot of drive and some [quality] traditional hand tools. What does that Mallet weight? Is it made of wood or rawhide?
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Post by Red on Jun 8, 2015 18:55:05 GMT -5
I never weighed the mallet, Holmz. It was handmade by a blacksmith who also sells antique timber framing tools. In fact, I've sent him an email over the weekend inquiring about whether or not he has one available.
The guy used to watch us cutting joinery, so I guess he kind of guessed at the right size for me. Whatever he did, he came up with the perfect size for me. It is made of ironwood, by the way.
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Post by holmz on Jun 8, 2015 20:35:40 GMT -5
I never weighed the mallet, Holmz. It was handmade by a blacksmith who also sells antique timber framing tools. In fact, I've sent him an email over the weekend inquiring about whether or not he has one available.
The guy used to watch us cutting joinery, so I guess he kind of guessed at the right size for me. Whatever he did, he came up with the perfect size for me. It is made of ironwood, by the way. "Straight outta Latvia" www.neemantools.com/en/products/woodworking-tools/timber-framing-toolsThey don't give them away... Rockwell hardness 61, so I wonder how they compare with the Barr Quarton. It is probably like debating a Ferrari versus a Lamborghini - when one drives a Hyundai.
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Post by Red on Jun 8, 2015 20:55:32 GMT -5
Holy Shiite Muslim! They aren't giving 'em away, are they?
But if Steve Chappell and Will Beemer -- two big names in the US timber framing revival -- are both recommending Barr Quarton (BQ) hand tools, those Latvian jobs would have to be harder than diamonds before I'd consider laying down that kind of cash.
By the way, how friggin' big are Latvians, anyway? Those chisels are longer than BQ's -- and I once heard a master framer refer to a BQ chisel as "a shovel" (he used Japanese chisels, exclusively).
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Post by holmz on Jun 8, 2015 22:34:52 GMT -5
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By the way, how friggin' big are Latvians, anyway? Those chisels are longer than BQ's -- and I once heard a master framer refer to a BQ chisel as "a shovel" (he used Japanese chisels, exclusively). The chisels are about an inch longer than the BQs. The long Bisaiguë is just under 4 feet. Looks like the BQs are 62 rockwell.
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Post by Red on Jun 8, 2015 23:32:45 GMT -5
I prefer Rockford's '78 ...
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Post by jalvis on Jun 9, 2015 11:32:17 GMT -5
I want to see that all put together. Nicely done.
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Post by Red on Jun 9, 2015 14:34:50 GMT -5
Well, thank you for the compliment -- but what, and please don't take this the wrong, are you remarking on?
Are you referring to the photo in the original post, JAlvis?
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Post by jalvis on Jun 15, 2015 12:06:08 GMT -5
Yeah. Theres no image of the completed project.
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Post by Red on Jun 15, 2015 13:13:13 GMT -5
Yeah. Theres no image of the completed project. As I mentioned in the original post (OP), JAlvis, I don't usually take photos. We do have an "unofficial" photographer, however, so I sometimes get to see the work from a different perspective. I'll consult with the aforementioned camera owner and see if there are any additional images available.
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Post by Red on Jun 18, 2015 22:03:18 GMT -5
Yeah. Theres no image of the completed project. Okay, JAlvis, here's a photo of the finished product. As some interest has been expressed in seeing a TF project for beginners, I'm thinking of starting a thread that will feature this item (and its mate). Although I've heard many names for these things ... they're usually built in pairs ... I was taught to call them "trestle ponies." As large construction timbers can be pretty heavy, they're used as timber frame "saw horses," so to speak. It may not look like it, but this type of horse is very strong ... they're also very handy when hammering away at TF joinery.
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Post by jalvis on Jun 19, 2015 12:21:21 GMT -5
That will certainly last a lifetime. I work off "saw horses" often and find the tradition very practical.
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Jun 19, 2015 17:54:26 GMT -5
RedOak,
How often are your projects built of PT?
John
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Post by Red on Jun 19, 2015 22:10:07 GMT -5
RedOak, How often are your projects built of PT? John That's very observant of you, John. This particular pair of trestle ponies were based on PT SYP because they will be kept outdoors -- until the day they fall apart ... but to answer your question, directly -- hardly ever.
If you notice the background in the two "pony" photos on this thread, you'll see a lot of trees. Well, that's because we own a parcel of managed forestland and the standing timber is pretty much dedicated to either cordwood production or for construction timbers. If I could [legally] pressure-treat timbers, I probably would've looked into it many moons ago.
By the way, the trestle ponies could've been based on any number of tree species.
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