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Post by MrToolJunkie on May 24, 2015 10:08:32 GMT -5
This saw look s better than I first thought, watching it in the video. I expect it will be hugely popular. Yeah - looks like they got some stuff right - I like that you can adjust for slop on the guide rail - even though it is not much on the KSS saws, it is still there. Looks like one knob bevel tightening too and flat on the side like the KSS80 and KSS300. The guard control is inside the body of the saw and the hose connector is articulated so it will not flop around like the existing dust chute. The key will be power, I suppose. It did sound like it had enough for many of the test cuts, but it struggled a little in that rip in 8/4 Maple. Looks like Festool is coming out with thinner blades specifically for this saw as well. I wonder if a new KSS300 and KSS400 are in the works for a redesign or if the current versions are good enough to not warrant it? I would like to see variable speed, rail adjustment like the MT55 and flat bodies. A Cuprex motor would be awesome too.
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Post by heiko on May 24, 2015 12:40:17 GMT -5
I was at the Metabo pressconferece and saw the LiHD batteries that will although come for Mafell. I will want this year maybe there come a new KSS400? The batteries where amazing, I posted a video at cordless wonders
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Post by GhostFist on May 24, 2015 13:50:45 GMT -5
My German is very basic. could you give us the gist of what LiHD is all about? As it's compatible with existing metabo cordless and thus mafell's rebranded drills one would assume that the collaboration would continue with future cordless offerings from mafell, but do you know this for sure?
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 24, 2015 13:53:08 GMT -5
When I was at Ligna I did try finding out if any updated kss version was planned. They weren't giving much away. A cuprex motor and being able to lift the guard on the inside would be nice plus the depth stop and adjustment for slop not that I find much of a problem with it
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Post by heiko on May 25, 2015 1:55:26 GMT -5
LiHD has a lower innerresitance and can deliver much more amps to the tool there must be an english video on YouTube. This is complete compatible to existing Metabo tools and loaders.Ithink there will come new saws in cooperation with Mafell LiHD will be introduced now in north America.Next company with LiHD will be Mafell!
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Post by jacko on May 25, 2015 10:28:25 GMT -5
The lack of interest on the FOG site might be due to the fact that the new saw won't be available in North America. Battery packaging makes a lot of sense in 18v for a few reasons. The same battery can be used in multiple tools like the T-18 drill or the new TSC 55 cordless saw. The Li batteries are just packaged 2v keeper cells arranged in a package so the 36v version would be the same weight and a lot bulkier.
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Post by jm on May 25, 2015 17:55:22 GMT -5
LiHD has a lower innerresitance and can deliver much more amps to the tool there must be an english video on YouTube. This is complete compatible to existing Metabo tools and loaders.Ithink there will come new saws in cooperation with Mafell LiHD will be introduced now in north America.Next company with LiHD will be Mafell! I'm curious what batteries they're using, what they're boasting (increased output and runtime) would require a different cell chemistry. Currently everyone uses the same INR18650 cells nowadays from Samsung/LG Chem/Sanyo/Sony. I might have to buy one and take it apart, see if I can retrofit my other batteries I have.
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Post by jm on May 25, 2015 17:58:12 GMT -5
They also are pushing their 36V line to the same output as a 2400W mains unit.
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Post by GhostFist on May 25, 2015 21:11:40 GMT -5
Firs, let me say that the 5.2 amp batteries last for ever. My work hasn't been insanely screw heavy lately but I've changed batteries 3 times since I bought this drill, which was on April 16th! I was impressed when my t 15 would need a fresh battery every 2 days that time reduced as the drill got older but is still good.they can match output of a 2300 watt motor on the 36v versions? ?? I'm pretty interested I have to say
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Post by heiko on May 25, 2015 22:49:50 GMT -5
These batteries have new cells that are biger and thicker wires.
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Post by jalvis on May 27, 2015 10:47:20 GMT -5
Firs, let me say that the 5.2 amp batteries last for ever. My work hasn't been insanely screw heavy lately but I've changed batteries 3 times since I bought this drill, which was on April 16th! I was impressed when my t 15 would need a fresh battery every 2 days that time reduced as the drill got older but is still good.they can match output of a 2300 watt motor on the 36v versions? ?? I'm pretty interested I have to say geez....thats amazing. I'm screwing a deck down this week. I'm getting about 50 screws before a fresh battery. Although the batteries are rather old.
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Post by GhostFist on May 27, 2015 14:32:16 GMT -5
I imagine any brushless 5.2amp battery would give similar performance. BTW changed the battery again today. Still had two bars but that's 4 times since purchase
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Post by jm on May 27, 2015 17:30:01 GMT -5
Now in English:
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Post by GhostFist on May 27, 2015 18:20:45 GMT -5
I don't get the 100 percent more service life claim under the same warranty. it should be 6 years if they want to back their claim up. Also the statistics shown don't state what it's an improvement over, are they claiming 67 percent more run time over the 5.2 amp batteries? Need to see some better statistical breakdowns and real world performance tests.
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Post by jm on May 27, 2015 18:24:55 GMT -5
I don't get the 100 percent more service life claim under the same warranty. it should be 6 years if they want to back their claim up. Also the statistics shown don't state what it's an improvement over, are they claiming 67 percent more run time over the 5.2 amp batteries? Need to see some better statistical breakdowns and real world performance tests. Yeah I'm not sure how that works. The lifetime claim is derived from the fact that you charge it less often and that the cells are air cooled, which makes some sense. If you look at those who have active cooling (Makita and Metabo) and passive cooling (Bosch), their charge times are a good deal faster due to the ability to dissipate the heat built up in the pack having all the cells so close to each other. I wonder if cooling the cells on the tool during discharge will become a thing as well.
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