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Post by Tom Gensmer on Jul 27, 2014 16:08:01 GMT -5
Good day to you Gentlemen! Alrighty-roo, this Fall I hope to finally invest in a P1cc. I ALSO want to get into a Collins Coping Foot. www.collinstool.com/base.php?page=collins_coping_foot.htmI am TOTALLY fine having a jigsaw dedicated to the Coping foot (probably a Festool PS300 Trion Barrel Grip). That being said, if there is a method by which I can QUICKLY add or remove a Coping Foot from a P1cc, it might inform in what order I purchase these tools. Ultimately, of course I plan on calling Collins on Monday to get their input, but I was wondering if anybody has any clear photos of the connection point between the P1cc and the various bases? It occurs to me that the CUNex blade would be AWESOME for coping, which is why I am considering the P1cc for this task. Anyways, I look forward to hearing from you, and hopefully seeing some photos! Thanks, and be safe! Tom
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Post by GhostFist on Jul 27, 2014 16:26:57 GMT -5
I've been considering this myself. Would be great on the P1cc. I believe however that the coping foot screws into the base of your existing saw. I'll try and snap some pics of the P1cc base as requested and it may fit on to that but not as a quick change base.
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Jul 27, 2014 16:45:29 GMT -5
I've been considering this myself. Would be great on the P1cc. I believe however that the coping foot screws into the base of your existing saw. I'll try and snap some pics of the P1cc base as requested and it may fit on to that but not as a quick change base. Thank you Sir!! Yes, traditionally the Coping Foot has only been compatible with jigsaws that use a cap screw to secure the base to the saw. Therefore, the coping foot is generally not compatible with saws that have a lever-operated bevel lock. That being said, Collins HAS released a special Coping Foot compatible with the Festool Carvex. If the Coping Foot can't be easily attached directly to the P1cc, then perhaps it would be work seeing if Collins would produce a special foot for the P1cc? When I call on Monday I'll inquire if they'd need a minimum order...
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Jul 27, 2014 16:52:59 GMT -5
I found this photo on the Timeberwolf Tools website. It appears to me that there is a small plate that is operated by a lever, presumably drawing into the saw. If the mechanism is really that simple, it could make for a nice connection.....
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Post by GhostFist on Jul 27, 2014 18:06:40 GMT -5
yes, it's like a t-shank that fits into a receiving slot on the base. THis looks to be held in place by a bolt not unlike what you would find on a regular jigsaw. Presumably you could attach the coping foot via this bolt. The shank however will not fit into the coping foot without modification to the foot.
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Post by 7 on Jul 27, 2014 23:30:46 GMT -5
Good day to you Gentlemen! Alrighty-roo, this Fall I hope to finally invest in a P1cc. I ALSO want to get into a Collins Coping Foot. www.collinstool.com/base.php?page=collins_coping_foot.htmI am TOTALLY fine having a jigsaw dedicated to the Coping foot (probably a Festool PS300 Trion Barrel Grip). That being said, if there is a method by which I can QUICKLY add or remove a Coping Foot from a P1cc, it might inform in what order I purchase these tools. Ultimately, of course I plan on calling Collins on Monday to get their input, but I was wondering if anybody has any clear photos of the connection point between the P1cc and the various bases? It occurs to me that the CUNex blade would be AWESOME for coping, which is why I am considering the P1cc for this task. Anyways, I look forward to hearing from you, and hopefully seeing some photos! Thanks, and be safe! Tom Just my personal opinion: I don't think the Cunex W1 blade would be very good for coping. The tooth pattern is very aggressive in both tooth size and shape. I think it would blow out the front finished surface a bit. I bet either a very fine tooth blade (similar to a standard hand coping saw blade pattern) or a "clean for wood" blade with the teeth pointing down would work a lot better. Just wanted to mention this since you stated the blade may be the main reason you are considering the saw. I can try to cope with the cunex blade compared to others to check my premise even though I don't own a collins coping foot if knowing what the result for coping would be is going to have a lot of influence on your decision to purchase or not.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Jul 28, 2014 1:20:24 GMT -5
Have to agree as well, the w1 blade will be to aggressive. If you where to use the w1 blade then you would need some kind of 0 clearance with coping foot and I have no idea if possible as I don't have a Collins coping foot and have never seen or used one. I would go for a clean cut blade or coping blade as well
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Post by sylwestercarpenter on Jul 28, 2014 2:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Jul 28, 2014 12:16:18 GMT -5
UPDATE: I am in contact with Collins Tool Company. No promises as of yet, but we are in the beginning stages of trying to get a sample P1cc to him so he can evaluate the saw and determine compatibility.
Regarding blades, it might seem counterintuitive, but the more aggressive blades are better suited to this application. They tend to be more stout/stiff, allowing you to make tighter turns without breaking the blade, and without much blade deflection. Also, you definitely want a regular, "up-cutting" blade, because you'll be holding the saw upside down relative to the crown, so the teeth will be drawing material down past the finished face. Therefore, the CUNex blade would seem uniquely well suited to this task.
I'll keep you guys updated with news from Collins. Just for giggles, if Collins had to produce a custom model for the P1cc, how many users would be interested, to give them some idea of demand? Thanks for all of the responses, I'll keep you updated ! Work safe, Tom
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Post by GhostFist on Jul 28, 2014 15:17:37 GMT -5
I'm in! I don't know how many of these guys are out in NA and how many of those people would be into the coping foot. I don't know that the coping foot is used that much the other side of the pond. I don't think it would be difficult to machine a notch for quick release and attachment on the P1cc and would love to see this feature
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Post by sylwestercarpenter on Jul 28, 2014 15:23:32 GMT -5
I'm in too!
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Post by mattdh on Jul 28, 2014 20:02:38 GMT -5
i would be in for one
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Post by taz on Jul 29, 2014 20:17:03 GMT -5
I would buy one. I have used the p1cc a couple of weeks ago fitting 6inch torus skiting in 5 rooms including hallways. I used the normal base to cope internal corners without any problems. A collins coping foot will make coping easier and faster but even if it does not become available for the p1cc I have no issues in using the standard base to cope - just takes longer.
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Post by GhostFist on Jul 29, 2014 21:11:19 GMT -5
It is a great saw for coping.
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Post by 7 on Jul 29, 2014 22:21:11 GMT -5
I would buy one. I love using the P1cc but don't get to often enough, I'd like another reason to use it and I am sure it would speed up coping as well.
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