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Post by evs on Dec 22, 2019 5:46:00 GMT -5
Hi,
I'm considering buying a KSS 40. and I like some feedback if that is what I need and worth the money.
The reasons why I want to buy is kss 40. Is as replacement for a miter saw, because I don't have room for a miter saw, and cut down lumber at the lumber yard for transport.
Only the size I want to cut regularly is 44mm thick dimensional lumber. That is a issue. The KSS 50 is capable of this, but is 2kg more heavy and that is a lot for swing around.
So How easy is it do cut on both size if it is thicker then 40mm square?
And I'm also left handed. I know it is a right handed tool and I can use my other hand as well. but are there other left handed tool experience?
thanks, EVS
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Post by evs on Dec 24, 2019 13:40:34 GMT -5
To bad there is no one to share some experience.
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Post by lincoln on Dec 24, 2019 19:52:09 GMT -5
Cutting from both sides isn't a problem - not that I'd want to be making all my cuts like that. I use my track saw left handed a lot of the time and don't have any issues - maybe you could try a KSS right handed? I'm going to get my 40 out and try it left handed, will get back to you.
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Post by lincoln on Dec 24, 2019 21:52:16 GMT -5
Ok, so there's no way I could use it left handed, I just felt too out of control. The only other way is to stand to the right of the saw and use my left hand. Biggest problem with this is keeping the track stops pushed up to the timber. I really don't think you would have a problem holding with your right hand and using your left hand to hold the track or workpiece - are you able to try one for yourself anywhere? Or get your hands on a festool crosscutting saw, just to check using it right handed?
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Post by evs on Dec 25, 2019 4:23:07 GMT -5
lincoln thanks for the response and trying it out left handed. I'm both handed enough for cutting right handed. Only wondered if you can uses it with my left handed but no.
I'm living not that far from Germany but is is no easy to get your hands on a Mafell tool. So finding out for my self what the best for me. is not that easy. I'm also looking at the festool HKC 55, but doesn't run on Mafell/bosch track. And Bosch doesn't have a comparable saw. So I'm really wondering if buying the KSS 40 is the right think to do. Or is the KSS 50 the better choice. And the weight difference between the KSS 50 and KSS 60 is really small. So go direct for the KSS 60. But I expect that the weight of the 50 and 60 is an issue. So back to the KSS 40 again. So even with the limited cutting dept is the kss 40 the most versatile saw. With a price point that make festool looks cheap.
That is really a difficult choose.
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Post by lincoln on Dec 25, 2019 4:35:37 GMT -5
Yeah, very versatile. But if I mainly cut 44mm, I'd seriously consider the 50. I haven't actually had a 50 in my hands, but I used to have a KSS400 and I didn't find that too heavy.
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Post by aas on Dec 25, 2019 10:53:04 GMT -5
Depends what you'll be using the saw for most of the time. As Lincoln says, if you regularly cut 44mm timber, get a bigger saw, the KSS40 is not for this and it will get tiring very quick to be flipping timber.
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Post by evs on Dec 26, 2019 2:47:05 GMT -5
Ok thanks. I'm not cutting 44mm all the time but is a impotent reason for buying one. So maybe the KSS 50 is the better choose. Maybe someone is willing to share some user experience. Thanks!
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Dec 26, 2019 12:14:42 GMT -5
Is it a replacement for a miter saw? Depends on what you need to miter. In my opinion it works fine for square stock; moldings, not so much. I wouldn't willing use it to miter molded stock.
Good luck with your decision.
John
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Post by aas on Dec 26, 2019 13:55:45 GMT -5
The other point to bear in mind is length of cut, quite limited with the short KSS40 rail - you can go up to a 770mm rail with the bigger saws.
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Post by evs on Dec 27, 2019 4:00:29 GMT -5
aas you got the K65 BL with kss60 base. Can please give me a review of the battery operated cutting power on soft and hardwood. If the length of the kss rail is an issue and the weight of the device, when at a job side? Thanks!
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Post by aas on Dec 28, 2019 4:15:07 GMT -5
Power is good, I've used it for cutting damp/frozen wood - no problems. Bear in mind Mafell only do two blades for it - it's not a saw for doing finishing work! I have the crosscut rail from the MF26, I will add a 770mm at some point.
Weight is relative, I find it well balanced and never felt it to be heavy... I guess swinging a 770mm rail would make it cumbersome, but if that's the tool for the job, needs must.
Not tried it on hardwood. If you need to be regularly ripping 60mm hardwood, I would suggest a mains powered KSS80. My personal preference is that the gullet of the blade comes out the other side of the wood I am cutting, this results in the teeth pulling back into the wood, reducing the risk of kickback, and giving a cleaner cut...
With that in mind, I would not regularly use the KSS40 on anything more than about 30mm - OK for the odd cut of course. If I need to be cutting 40mm all day long, it's time to bring out another saw... and going back to your original question, regularly cutting 44mm wood with the KSS40 is far from ideal.
I'm sure you'd be very happy with the KSS60 (even the 50 is borderline for day in day out 44mm cutting). You'll get used to the weight!
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Post by evs on Dec 28, 2019 8:58:51 GMT -5
Thanks AAS, I want to use it for carpentry. And with only low tooth count blades available, to rough for allround use and the KSS 40 is to small. So, I think, the conclusion is there is no one tool that cover all the thinks I want to do with it.
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Post by keylow on Dec 28, 2019 14:53:49 GMT -5
KSS40 comes with a 24 tooth blade. There is also a 12 tooth ripping blade and two different 40 tooth blades. One for wood and one for laminate.
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Post by aas on Dec 29, 2019 17:47:41 GMT -5
If I had to pick one saw I'd be stumped... probably an MT55... but then I do more interiors than carpentry. The best all rounder is probably the HKC55, Festool I know, but that sweet preset plunge mechanism means it can be used as a part-time plunge saw too. It's a very nice saw and worth a look...
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