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Post by henrun on Mar 23, 2019 1:56:20 GMT -5
Hey guys,
after ordering and receiving the Hikoki silent impact I took another long hard look at the Multivolt 165mm sliding mitre saw from the same vendor. I decided to go full YOLO and ordered one.
I figured I would run it on 36V Multivolt batteries (maybe just one battery for starters) until the transformer thingy is available over here, which should be in a month or so. The batteries run on my Hitachi 18V gear as well so no loss there.
It would "replace" my Makita DLS 600 and handle more trim work due to near perfect cutting capacity for my general needs. It would also replace my Festool SYM70E for on site work, which is even more restricted in capacity. The Festool and Makita would be in the workshop for those small tasks and the Makita is perfect for other smaller tasks on site or for a short stint where ever it needs to go.
Hoping it will arrive in a few weeks time! It takes the same blade as the Makita and I think this one will have me set for a while for 90% of my work, the rest I have an older grunt saw for.
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Post by jimbouk on Mar 23, 2019 14:31:07 GMT -5
Awesome Henrun. Let us know when she lands and your thoughts after some use. High hopes for this saw. Could be the best combination of portability and accuracy.👍
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Post by arvid on Mar 24, 2019 10:27:46 GMT -5
Hey guys,
after ordering and receiving the Hikoki silent impact I took another long hard look at the Multivolt 165mm sliding mitre saw from the same vendor. I decided to go full YOLO and ordered one.
I figured I would run it on 36V Multivolt batteries (maybe just one battery for starters) until the transformer thingy is available over here, which should be in a month or so. The batteries run on my Hitachi 18V gear as well so no loss there.
It would "replace" my Makita DLS 600 and handle more trim work due to near perfect cutting capacity for my general needs. It would also replace my Festool SYM70E for on site work, which is even more restricted in capacity. The Festool and Makita would be in the workshop for those small tasks and the Makita is perfect for other smaller tasks on site or for a short stint where ever it needs to go.
Hoping it will arrive in a few weeks time! It takes the same blade as the Makita and I think this one will have me set for a while for 90% of my work, the rest I have an older grunt saw for.
Yes please let us know. And if you want pm me what retailer you ordered it from. Thanks
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Post by henrun on Mar 29, 2019 2:30:44 GMT -5
UPDATE: The mitre saw is now shipping . I actually added another oil impact after making the order, which they were kind enough to ship in the same package.
I hardly use anything else but the oil impact at the moment - that's how much I enjoy it. It does most of the jobs except for drilling with hole saws or drill bits. Building up a new workshop which we are moving into in two weeks time and I will really enjoy having the silent impact there as well. Arvid: where are you located? The shipping rates are quite high. It hikes the price up some and there is another vendor that I found _after_ making the order that had a much lower price on the mitre saw... Also from Japan. Cannot vouch for them as I haven't ordered from them but they are large and "established". Will PM you about this as soon as I can dig up the link. I decided to add the impact as it didn't affect the shipping rate so it was with "free shipping" and a decent price on the impact. As a whole it made the deal good enough. Besides, it was the only way I could get the mitre saw and the impact shipped. The vendor I ordered from is fluent in english writing which made it a whole lot easier.
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mattj
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Post by mattj on Mar 29, 2019 6:14:28 GMT -5
Henrun,
Can you share the vendor here so we don't all flood you with PM requests?
(If not, please PM me too!)
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Post by henrun on Mar 29, 2019 14:07:23 GMT -5
Hey all!
I ordered from a Japanese site called japan_recommended through Ebay. I would urge you to wait until it arrives - if we are lucky it will arrive in a week - previous shipment was pretty fast counting from when I got the shipping notice. I am not too concerned about the shipping as the previous one arrived safe and sound and I have had excellent feedback through email with the store/service provider.
I would advise you to take a long hard look at pricing including shipping before committing to an order. Pricing has varied wildly during my searches for same item!
There is also the Japanese site Buyee.jp which has an English page. They are a "parcel forwarding company" and it can be a bit confusing with finding info on their website as to how it works.
You can choose between various Japanese auction and seller sites and then they purchase it for you (you pay them for it) - and then they ship it to THEIR warehouse from where they forward it to you after you pay them again, for EMS / International shipping. Shipping rates are the usual shipping rates and you pay a handling fee for the purchase.
They seem legit though it seems they are known for charging a lot for "inspecting" and repacking the goods before shipping out - it is a service they have by default which you have to deselect if you don't want it.
This adds waiting time and a fee for the service.
Some feedback is negative though most of those relate to purchases of smaller goods like used gear, watches and art work and such. For those types of purchases the negative feedback seems to be about 30% (!) but most revolve around overcharging for packaging of light weight /small goods which makes the item prohibitively expensive in the end for what you order.
Reason I am mentioning the Buyee.jp page is that they have the saw from various vendors at a much lower price than what I ended up paying and if you can wait that extra week you might get it for the domestic price plus shipping.
Search for Hikoki C 3606 DRA NN (NN for w/o batteries) and you will find it.
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Post by henrun on Apr 1, 2019 13:56:53 GMT -5
Shipment arrived at Customs Office today in Sweden. Look forward to receiving it. Spoke to the Hitachi rep today and the transformer is on order though it will most likely arrive in June in Sweden. The cord is 4M to the transformer and then 2M more from the transformer so that gives it a pretty decent range.
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Post by henrun on Apr 2, 2019 13:33:49 GMT -5
Package will probably arrive tomorrow. I am actually a little excited.
It is a bit ironic really: I have been doing the kind of work this past week that would fit the saw _perfectly_ but I just had the little Makita 18V on site and there were a few trim cuts around 200mm wide that it simply could not do. Had to do them with the HKC55 which honestly is a little rough for trim even with the 32 blade. Done a few hundred chops with the Muhkitah this month and I am hoping the Hitachi will get a similar workout. I did get the Hitachi so it feels kind of ... iconic in a way.
Will pick up a Multivolt battery tomorrow on the merry way home. Also realized they charge on the 18V chargers too so no worries there.
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Post by henrun on Apr 3, 2019 12:56:44 GMT -5
Arrived today - well packed and in good order! Lucky for me I picked up two MultiVolt batteries on the way home ... I put the Oil Impact next to it for scale: Feels very well made. I have a cheap Hitachi mitre saw, made in China. It is very rattly and does not inspire confidence. This one is made in Japan and is very well finished and kind of feels "heavy for being so light". Laser line is thin and not superstrong but the flexible LED is a very good light and will come in handy I think. More to come when I have used it a little. Off to table tennis now so can't run anything through it.
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Post by henrun on Apr 3, 2019 13:24:24 GMT -5
...no table tennis for me - forgot my antagonist was off skiing this week!
So, delivery of the saw and impact was pretty swift - shipped out 29/3 and arrived today.
Feels like it has some guts when I power it up. It is after all a 36V machine. Should be stronger than the little Makita DLS600 18V I have - which is very good thanks to the thin kerf blade.
Blade size is the same (165mm) and I recently got a new blade for the Makita but might hold on to it for this saw. At least getting blades will be easy over here.
I suspect batteries will last quite long so I am in no rush to get the a/c adapter but I look forward to bringing it to the workshop.
Can't really see why I should keep the Makita mini mitre - but it is smaller, even lighter at a mere 6kg and does bevel both ways. Finish and build quality is much higher on the Hitachi - no comparison really. But the Makita ain't bad.
The Makita mitre stop is a pain and is kind of rough but despite that it is a brilliant little helper for small trim. It will literally take a back seat to the Hitachi though.
The Hitachi has a dual mitre scale which I haven't deciphered yet - left side scale is in increments going from zero to 1/10 2/10 etc in increments of 1/10. What is that about?
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brice
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Post by brice on Apr 3, 2019 16:25:57 GMT -5
Looks great!, any news on price and availability in the US?
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Post by ohan on Apr 4, 2019 2:08:21 GMT -5
That may be the cutest saw I’ve ever seen, lol
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Post by henrun on Apr 4, 2019 13:20:22 GMT -5
Looks great!, any news on price and availability in the US? This saw will not be made available in the US as far as I know. Same as Europe - why we don't get the goodies I don't know.
The one too look out for will be C3607DRA which will be the top of the line saw I think.
7 1/2 inch blade (190mm) and Japanese made - probably as well made as this little saw, quite portable and very good capacity.
That one is probably not coming to Europe either - the one they are releasing is the 10" saw which has good capacity but isn't that well put together according to a rep I know and trust who has seen the saw in the flesh.
I didn't bring the saw to the worksite today since I was toting a lot of gear for a demolition crew and was pressed for time - didn't want to get stuck in traffic. Tomorrow I might bring it to finish off some trim work and I can then compare it directly to the mini-Makita.
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Post by henrun on Apr 4, 2019 13:24:53 GMT -5
That may be the cutest saw I’ve ever seen, lol Yeah, it kind of looks like a scale model of a saw... Fit and finish is top notch and it really feels like a solid saw.
I wish it would have double bevel but it would probably have added to the weight some. And I can get by without it. Only double bevel saw I've had is the baby Makita and the Kapex, the latter I almost never lugged around on site and eventually sold off.
The new C3607DRA will have dual bevel and the battery on top instead of the side. Apart from that they look more or less the same.
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Post by kraftt on Apr 4, 2019 14:13:13 GMT -5
I've been curious to know if there's any movement / adjustment past the listed 45º on either the 3606 /3607 ?
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