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Post by aas on Jun 20, 2018 12:46:33 GMT -5
Got the new brushless Hitachi 18v framing nailer with a couple of 6ah batts and rapid charger.
Happy with it so far - only put about 10000 nails through it this week, so time will tell.
Impossible to empty a battery faster than a new one is charged.
Another battery platform... up to 6!
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Post by skinee on Jun 24, 2018 3:06:42 GMT -5
I have one ordered with the 5Ah batteries but have to wait on it for another two weeks to take advantage of a very good price here in the UK,i actually would have preferred it bundled with 3Ah batteries (as it seems to sold with in North America)to keep the weight to a minimum,some reviewers have found it a little heavy,do you find it heavy aas ? also I wonder what different brands of nails this gun will take,hitachi's nails are expensive and seem to be a little larger in diameter than some brands I have looked at.
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Post by aas on Jun 24, 2018 13:56:36 GMT -5
I ordered from the uk, body only plus rapid charger, plus 6ah. (FFX again - even with shipping, they are often cheaper than buying here in France.)
If you're doing a lot of nailing, 2x 3ah's won't keep up. The 6ah's don't add much weight. I've been doing deck-board replacement, so no over-the-head or stud-wall work - it's not been too heavy - but over 12000 nails later, my wrists are a little sore from the brutal shock.
I just ordered galvanised 34degree 3.1mm nails (in 60, 75 & 90mm). I think it takes up to 3.3mm, but don't quote me on it. Senco nails are pretty good and not too expensive, not sure what else you can get there.
WIll be adding the 16 or 18ga at some point, can't make my mind up!.. going compressor free!
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Post by kraftt on Jun 24, 2018 16:39:35 GMT -5
I was going to ask about recoil but then read it has one of the least. The Paslode framer can be downright jarring on longer nails so I’ve been keeping an eye on the Hitachi’s with interest.
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Post by holmz on Jun 24, 2018 18:42:40 GMT -5
Not sure that is a way around that given Newton's "every action has an equal and opposite reaction". Having more mass, or recoil absorption, would be ways to lessen the perceived recoil.
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Post by huntsgemein on Jun 24, 2018 19:07:06 GMT -5
I know it's totally irrelevant to the rest of the world, but for framing in Oz hardwood timbers (seasoned ones anyway, not green) nothing less than an air hammer will work. Not a Paslode or equiv. gas varietal, not any cordless that I've ever come across either. The Tasmanian oak triumvurate of spp. (Eucalyptus regnans, delegatensis & obliqua) together with the peppermints, gums, ironbarks, tallowoods etc. are simply too hard, dense & impact resistant for adequate nail penetration.
More common softwood scantling doesn't present anything like this resistance. As elsewhere plantation timbers are eminently compatible with run of the mill gas & cordless electric hammers. But for our hardwoods, nothing but the power & punch of the very best Bostitch, Senco etc. compressor driven angle framing hammers will suffice.
Not owning one myself, my own dry scantling arsenal consists of a 19 oz. 17" waffle-faced California Framer, cordless drill with 1/8" bit & a bar of soap! In hardwoods, predrilling is often necessary to circumvent end-grain splitting. The shock & impact of machine hammers prevents this from happening somehow.
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Post by aas on Jun 24, 2018 23:49:48 GMT -5
I was going to ask about recoil but then read it has one of the least. The Paslode framer can be downright jarring on longer nails so I’ve been keeping an eye on the Hitachi’s with interest. Depends what you're nailing into. There is no recoil - but hit it a knot in joist and the recoil is as violent as any nailer.
Maybe 20 times in 12000 nails it didn't fire a nail, but you can hear the difference.
Bump fire mode is excellent, no double fires.
My last framing nailer, a Senco air nailer, was a beast - extreme recoil, double firing etc...please to be rid of it. And of course, living and working at altitude, I didn't want a gas nailer. Happy with the Hitachi.
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Post by aas on Jan 31, 2019 14:48:18 GMT -5
Just added the Hitachi 18g and 16g nailers to the fold, with a couple of the 3ah batts. Look like the same gun to me, with a different magazine on the bottom - a quick change magazine would be a great idea!.. 1 gun, 2x magazines - not much difference between 18g and 16g. I can think of several (capitalist) ideas why that won't happen!
The 16g does not feel much different to the Senco 16g air nailer it replaces.
The 18g however, is big for an 18g. It replaces an old Makita 18g air nailer that is about as heavy as a slice of cheese. Oh well, at least I won't have to be lugging a compressor and hose with me!
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Post by jimbouk on Mar 29, 2020 5:33:12 GMT -5
Just added the Hitachi 18g and 16g nailers to the fold, with a couple of the 3ah batts. Look like the same gun to me, with a different magazine on the bottom - a quick change magazine would be a great idea!.. 1 gun, 2x magazines - not much difference between 18g and 16g. I can think of several (capitalist) ideas why that won't happen! The 16g does not feel much different to the Senco 16g air nailer it replaces. The 18g however, is big for an 18g. It replaces an old Makita 18g air nailer that is about as heavy as a slice of cheese. Oh well, at least I won't have to be lugging a compressor and hose with me! How are you liking these after plenty of use aas? I'm considering adding these to my line up...
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Post by aas on Mar 29, 2020 6:47:25 GMT -5
Can't fault them - only niggle as I said, the 18g is the same size as the 16g - that's BIG for an 18g nailer, difficult to get into small corners. I quite like the look of the new smaller Makita 18g nailer (I have the 10,8v 22g and it's great), but in these uncertain times I'm sticking with my already very nice setup :-(
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Post by jimbouk on Mar 29, 2020 11:24:19 GMT -5
Can't fault them - only niggle as I said, the 18g is the same size as the 16g - that's BIG for an 18g nailer, difficult to get into small corners. I quite like the look of the new smaller Makita 18g nailer (I have the 10,8v 22g and it's great), but in these uncertain times I'm sticking with my already very nice setup :-( Thanks mate. Indeed I’m these times everything has to be accounted for and scaled back. I need to sell to facilitate any fresh purchases.
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Post by yetihunter on Jun 15, 2020 14:11:41 GMT -5
Can't fault them - only niggle as I said, the 18g is the same size as the 16g - that's BIG for an 18g nailer, difficult to get into small corners. I quite like the look of the new smaller Makita 18g nailer (I have the 10,8v 22g and it's great), but in these uncertain times I'm sticking with my already very nice setup :-( This is why I skipped the 18 gauge altogether. The 16 gauge has been brilliant. So far, it has performed better than my Omers did. Impressive since I owned the pneumatic Hitachi’s and never thought of them as highly as many of the knuckle draggers do. The 23 gauge is about the size of a pneumatic 18 gauge but it too is brilliant for what I need it for (onesies and twosomes). I was already focused on running Makita only at work when I bought the Hitachi/MetaboHPT guns over the Makitas. That’s how bad the Makita’s supposedly are.
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Post by lincoln on Jun 15, 2020 16:18:59 GMT -5
I have the 16 gauge, which is fantastic, and ordered the framing gun yesterday.
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Post by yetihunter on Jul 8, 2020 3:28:25 GMT -5
I have the 16 gauge, which is fantastic, and ordered the framing gun yesterday. Feedback, pretty please. I don’t need but could use a framing gun and inexpensive refurbs show up from Big Sky, periodically.
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Post by lincoln on Jul 8, 2020 4:11:15 GMT -5
I have the 16 gauge, which is fantastic, and ordered the framing gun yesterday. Feedback, pretty please. I don’t need but could use a framing gun and inexpensive refurbs show up from Big Sky, periodically. Couldn't be happier. It's heavy, but all the battery only ones are. Good video comparison between the main contenders:
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