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Post by yetihunter on Mar 25, 2018 23:03:52 GMT -5
Easier to connect, machined square edges, two places to clamp on each end, easier to replace and more durable rubber antisplinter strip, more rigid. They are narrower, which can be a plus or minus depending on situation - using dogs to square the rail, for example, might cause issues with motor clearance on the left side. Personally, I do like the plastic glide strips on FT rails - the saw slides easier and less wear on the saw's sole. Not a huge deal, but that is one advantage to FT rails in my opinion. The top T-track on the Festool rails is pretty handy too... Slap some dust on the bottom of the rails and the anti-slip strips on the Festool still do their job... The Bosch/Mafell rail clamps can bend in half just by looking at them. Nothing, and I mean n o t h i n g, is easier than replacing the splinterstrip on the Festool guides. Did I also mention that it's clear? My pencils are not always the sharpest students in my shed. Cough, parallel guides, cough, aftermarket accessories. Woodworking and cabinet making: you'll like them both. Carpentry: you'll love one and hate the other.
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Post by holmz on Mar 27, 2018 4:06:01 GMT -5
And the FT rails cost a lot, and one either needs the 8' rail, or a Betterley connector or a precision straight edge... or a large van to move the things... Then the difference in price for the FT rails paid for the MT55, which fan-boi's say... "It may be better, but not better enough to warrant the high cost". Now I have no real experience with the FT system, but I can argue out of ignorance as well as the most loyal FOG fan-boi who doesn't have cross-platform experience.
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mattj
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Post by mattj on Mar 27, 2018 17:55:52 GMT -5
This is truth.
My Festool antisplinter strips were always coming off when it got hot in my van. If you don't have to schlep your rails around, the adhesive attachment could be an advantage- you can get a little more life out of a strip by scooching it over and recutting a fresh edge. I'm finding that the strips on my f-rails last longer than the Festool ones, though. Don't miss them. No looking back.
But now I'm dying to know what the top T-track is handy for!
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Post by aas on Mar 28, 2018 14:33:00 GMT -5
Top T-track :
For holding the rail in place on short crosscuts using a thumb For using the anti kick-back/plunge stops - which are easier to use than the Mafell/Bosch, and better as they stop the back of the saw lifting For using parallel guides For fixing the Gecko in the middle of long cuts to stop rail deflection - (the Gecko is a hugely underrated accessory - I make my own templates and fix to vertical panels using the Gecko for drilling the Divario holes using the DD40 - very fast and reliable, plus of course it doubles up for moving panels, mirrors, glass etc.)
I'm sure there are more uses...
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Post by yetihunter on Mar 28, 2018 19:15:34 GMT -5
Pretty much all of the aftermarket accessories use the top t-track. So, pretty much all of the aftermarket accessories. I can totally see the Festool splinter strip and anti-slip strips coming off in a piping hot van, which is why I scratch my head when people say it's hard to change them out. I peel them off and rub some acetone on them. If you don't have acetone always at the ready, then I guess you just don't paint your nails as often as I do.
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Post by thehandyman on Mar 28, 2018 19:18:58 GMT -5
Replace the Festool splinter guard with the black Makita ones and they won't peel off in the heat. Easy fix. Florida agrees with me.
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Post by henrun on Apr 1, 2018 15:06:50 GMT -5
And I agree with thehandyman, Makita splinterstrips on the Flexirail for me. Better? Nah, cheaper and they work. For Festool I used Makita splinterstrips during my last spell with Festool rails. I much prefer them to the semi clear plastic Festool offerings.
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Post by yetihunter on Apr 1, 2018 21:20:14 GMT -5
We are the wealth of collaborative guide rail knowledge.
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Post by henrun on Apr 2, 2018 15:48:12 GMT -5
MUF - keeping the threads on track.
MUF - has a perfect Track record
MUF - a cut above the rest!
MUF - no derailed threads since its inception.
MUF - you hail - we rail!
MUF - if you are off the beaten track - we will strip for you!
If you feel like campaigning for presidency of your local Routary Club I will be happy to provide off-the-cuff slogans...
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brice
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Post by brice on Apr 3, 2018 11:10:56 GMT -5
ok
i pulled the trigger
both saws headed my way....
selling festool hkc and ts 55
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Apr 3, 2018 17:19:32 GMT -5
Congrats on your new saws. Please let us know know your thoughts after you have the opportunity to use them.
John
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Post by yetihunter on Apr 4, 2018 17:29:10 GMT -5
MUF - keeping the threads on track. MUF - has a perfect Track record MUF - a cut above the rest! MUF - no derailed threads since its inception. MUF - you hail - we rail! MUF - if you are off the beaten track - we will strip for you! If you feel like campaigning for presidency of your local Routary Club I will be happy to provide off-the-cuff slogans... MUF threads never ever derail. Since Systainers are insanely expensive, now; and Bosch branded LBOXX's are insanely inexpensive; I've been thinking about buying some for the Bosch and Metabo bare tools I'll be acquiring this month. Seeing as we don't have metalocs nor do we often find Bosch tools inside of an LBOXX unless it's 2014 and we're lucky, hurr in the USA. New tools without boxes of any sort, but cardboard. It drives me mad. I know, I know, I've been importing what I want when I want since Amazon only sold books and Ebay relied on COD money order. Nonetheless, shipping an empty box over the waters, on a cargo jumbo jet, ain't always logical. (Yetihunter says, as he pulls some sandpaper out of a Berner Bera-Clic).
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Post by henrun on Apr 5, 2018 1:13:52 GMT -5
L-boxxes have some advantages. I have been eyeballing them for a while. Also sold under the name Sortimo and they are offered in other colors as well. There is a Makita edition I would like as the larger open handle and larger box does swallow up the little Makita DLS600 - on paper.
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Post by thehandyman on Apr 5, 2018 1:21:11 GMT -5
I really dislike lboxxes. The 2 handed release, pain to latch at times, and the fact you cannot open in a stack if one is clipped on top.
The lboxx redesign is better but I am way past them.
I use mainly DeWalt Tstak and systainers. I've recently imported Metaloc cases from Amazon Germany really cheap ($55 for size IV and $35 for size II shipped).
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Post by yetihunter on Apr 5, 2018 15:19:42 GMT -5
Sortimo shines with the van rigs, the larger variety of insert options, the more realistic layout options and all of that sort of thing. The tloc came out when I was looking to buy kaboodles and that completely decided it for me. But yes, I've played with everything, and even the old style systainers are way more convenient than the L'boxx latching mechanisms. However, horses for courses. I wouldn't take systainers over to a parking garage construction site. The L'boxx seems like it would hold up better.
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